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re: Better National Championship claim for Alabama: '41 or '14?

Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:29 pm to
Jesus, Gibson, You can't seriously be this stupid, right?

It's either:

"An LSU..."

OR

"A Louisiana State..."

Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

1941 we finished 3rd in the SEC and #20 in the final AP poll. I've never understood why we claim this one


Agreed.

Sorry the Buckeyes nutted up on y'all this year.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4292 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

It's either: "An LSU..." OR "A Louisiana State..."


No both still use "a", when abbreviated the "L" is still pronounced like a consonant.

Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24364 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

No both still use "a", when abbreviated the "L" is still pronounced like a consonant.


You can't be this stupid. You just can't be.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

when abbreviated the "L" is pronounced like:

"Elle".

Try this, "The word 'Louisiana' starts with a 'L'." versus, "The word 'Louisiana' starts with an 'L'."

And if you're just trolling for English lessons, well...



...that's just sad.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:40 pm to
Gimme AN L
L
Gimme an O
O
Gimme an S
S
Gimme an E
E
Gimme an R
R

What does that spell?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

What does that spell?

"Alabama"!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Which year do you think Alabama has more of a claim to the National Championship 1941 or 2014?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I've never understood why we claim this one.
Because you are Bama. Nuff said.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

What does that spell?

"Alabama"


Well, that's the last time I take YOUR side in anything.

Bitch.

Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Which year do you think Alabama has more of a claim to the National Championship 1941 or 2014?

I say 2014. Was #1 in the polls for most of the season and was the #1 seed in the playoffs. Won the SEC Championship and that's really the national championship. Oh and if we had the old system for one more year we would have played FSU for the title and would have dominated that game. We finished #4 in the final AP poll and I'm sure we can find some sportswriter to award us the title.

1941 we finished 3rd in the SEC and #20 in the final AP poll. I've never understood why we claim this one.



You have sound reasoning for this and so I am convinced.

Congratulations University of Alabama on your 2014 National Championship.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:07 pm to
I don't understand why this is so hard for people.

You don't get to just make shite up. You are AWARDED a national championship. Since there are many polls, you have to decide whether to "claim" a title based on the legitimacy of the poll who put you first. You don't get to just decide you were national champions because you can make a case for being the best team.

It is an OPINION which polls are to be considered authoritative. Personally, I consider any AP or UPI/Coaches poll to be authoritative (whether you personally like the fact that it may be before the bowls, or not). To me, the only authoritative poll in the BCS era is the BCS championship. And in the early years, before the AP and UPI, they still played football and you could still be the national champions. You have to decide the weight to put on the Dunkel, or Sagarin, or FWA, or whatever.

I think it is a big, unnecessary controversy for Alabama to claim 1941. We weren't the best team that year, it's obvious, so one minor poll declaring Alabama the champions can't outweigh what was clear to everyone else (including the AP, who I believe had us 20th or so).
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

You have sound reasoning for this and so I am convinced.

Congratulations University of Alabama on your 2014 National Championship.
2014 Transitive Championship Bowl Winner
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

2014 Transitive Championship Bowl Winner


4 in a reaux.

Let it Geaux, let it geaux, learn to pick up and carry on.
Let it geaux, let it geaux, your perfect season is gone.

Here Bama stands, and here we'll stay. Let the storm rage ON........

The corndogs never bothered us anyway.
Posted by uabtodd
Moody, AL
Member since Jan 2011
457 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:22 pm to
G
L
G
O
G
S
G
E
G
R

Glgogsgegr? How you pronounce that?
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:31 pm to
damn you people. Now I'm frustrated and embarrassed. I'm off to poison some trees
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24364 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

4 in a reaux.

Let it Geaux, let it geaux, learn to pick up and carry on.
Let it geaux, let it geaux, your perfect season is gone.

Here Bama stands, and here we'll stay. Let the storm rage ON........

The corndogs never bothered us anyway.


The ONE fricking place that shitty arse movie hadn't made it to yet. The ONE frickING PLACE!!

Thanks a-hole.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:50 pm to
Now I'm going to have to take your side here:
quote:

I don't understand why this is so hard for people. You don't get to just make shite up. You are AWARDED a national championship

Except for a small semantic issue:
quote:

you have to decide whether to "claim" a title based on the legitimacy of the poll who put you first.

I would say a school chooses whether to 'acknowledge' an award or not - and not so much 'claim' it.

The NCAA acknowledges some titles and not others, and a school is not required to acknowledge the same ones that the NCAA does. Take the 1908 football title for example. The NCAA acknowledges LSU as a title holder for 1908, yet LSU does not since the title was awarded retroactively and wasn't awarded at the time. The 1935 basketball title was awarded at the time, yet the NCAA does not acknowledge that award to LSU, but LSU does.
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