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Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:41 pm to 167back
Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:41 pm to 167back
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Exactly. One good O-lineman doesn't make for a good O-line so, why do you have bama's ranked so high? Didn't they just lose three three year starters?
We always have a top tier OL under Saban, no matter what we lost from the previous unit. It'll start off rough, but at the end of the season people will be ranking it as one of the top three in the nation.
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:47 pm to CrimsonChin
still cant believe no on is talking about ogbuehi. the kid is going to be sliding to RT as matthews moves to LT. ogbuehi is starting to be projected as a future 1st rounder. our line wont be as good, but should be still one of the better lines in the SEC
Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:56 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Top THREE in the nation??? Give me a freaking break dude.
If bama O-line is that high then I guess LSU is in the top TWO.
These are FOUR STARTERS LSU returns to it's O-line
Freshman All American
Honorable mention All SEC
20 game starter - started parts of three different seasons
RFr who was part of an O-line that led LSU to 435 yards of offense VS bama. Which included a 100+ yard rushing game by Hill.
That was the most yards lil nicky has given up while at bama.
If bama O-line is that high then I guess LSU is in the top TWO.
These are FOUR STARTERS LSU returns to it's O-line
Freshman All American
Honorable mention All SEC
20 game starter - started parts of three different seasons
RFr who was part of an O-line that led LSU to 435 yards of offense VS bama. Which included a 100+ yard rushing game by Hill.
That was the most yards lil nicky has given up while at bama.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:13 am to 167back
You gotta realize man that allalabamadoesiswin is the biggest BAMA homer on this board, I mean look at his username. BAMA does always win though, except when they lose..
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:07 am to CrimsonChin
Carolina probably won't have the best but we should definitely be top 5. We return 4 of our 5 starters from last year.
G-Ronald Patrick, Senior, started all 13 games last year
G-A.J. Cann, RS Junior, started 25 games in past two seasons, 1st team Freshman All-American in 2011
T-Brandon Shell, RS Sophomore, started 10 games last year earning Freshman All-SEC honors
T-Corey Robinson, RS Junior, started 9 games last year
C-Cody Waldrop, RS Freshman, projected starter at center replacing TJ Johnson
Others behind them w/ playing experience:
T-Cody Gibson, RS Junior, started 6 games past two years while getting playing time in 16 others
T-Mike Matulis, Junior, started 10 games past two years
G-Ronald Patrick, Senior, started all 13 games last year
G-A.J. Cann, RS Junior, started 25 games in past two seasons, 1st team Freshman All-American in 2011
T-Brandon Shell, RS Sophomore, started 10 games last year earning Freshman All-SEC honors
T-Corey Robinson, RS Junior, started 9 games last year
C-Cody Waldrop, RS Freshman, projected starter at center replacing TJ Johnson
Others behind them w/ playing experience:
T-Cody Gibson, RS Junior, started 6 games past two years while getting playing time in 16 others
T-Mike Matulis, Junior, started 10 games past two years
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:40 am to CockRocket
Most people don't know about other teams OL. It's a hard position to judge without watching a bunch if games and knowing who's replacing who. A&m had a great line last year and I expect this year to be equally as good if not better. These guys know the blocking scheme better where as last year it took a few games to adjust and adjust to jff. Jake will do as good a as Luke. Ced is the most athlete OL for the 2nd year in a row and he finally gets his chance to play tackle, his more natural position. We are going to miss pats leadership but little Matthews has a much higher ceiling and will be as good if not better than pat by seasons end.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:44 am to adam32
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Bama is this high based on what?
Holding of course. Deal with it.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:47 am to elposter
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Holding of course. Deal with it.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:57 am to 167back
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Patrick Lewis might not have been the best on that O-line but, he was the heart and soul of it. He was their leader. He will be missed more than aggie fans realize.
Most ags know how valuable Pat was. He did a great job making the line calls, and especially setting and maintaining the up-tempo pace. If we didn't have Mike Matthews (Jake's little brother) waiting to step up, there'd be a lot more concern. Also, given that we're starting year two of the system, you can make a good argument that the overall production from the Center position might actually go up.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:21 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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UT
Bama
UGA
A&M
LSU
How the hectare we ahead of LAU, aTm and GA when w lose all but two OL an the backups has little to no experience outside of mop up duty. WE ARE 4th at best and MAYBE better than LSU and I am not positive about that.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:22 am to LSUNV
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A&M lost their best two so them being at number two would be a no, but everything else is pretty good
No we didn't.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:25 am to labamafan
Bama will be top 3-4 by years end. Top 5 to start. Gotta get our holding streak back on with new players.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:44 am to CrimsonChin
DevellionDore told me Vandy has the best OL hands down. There's no way to argue that point, just wait and see.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:42 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I know you guys love to downplay A&M as much as you can but our OL is likely going to be better this year than last and last year it was probably the best in the country.
The foundation of a great OL is the LT spot because that guy has to protect the blind side and typically takes on the best pass rusher. Jake Matthews is as good as there is in CFB. Jake would have started at LT for any team in the country last year except A&M and honestly had Joekel not been an early enrollee and gotten a jump on Jake when they were Freshman that may have been different. Jake is just everything you want in a Tackle. He has all the physical tools and is incredibly polished for a college player, though it does help when Dad is a 13 Time Pro Bowler that helped to coach you. He just flat abuses people and on the rare occasion someone gets a step he recovers as well as anyone you will ever see.
At RT you have Obuehi that also would have started at Tackle anywhere but A&M but instead was an absolute stud Guard last year. He is a RS Junior that is likely going to be a 1st Rounder. Dude is just mean, big, and brings it every play.
At one Guard slot you have 2 year starter RS Jr Jarvis Harrison. Jarvis is a monster 6'4 320 guy that can move. He didn't play football until his Sr year in HS and was a 2 Star project that Mike Sherman saw and immediately offered saying he would be a 1st Round Draft Pick some day. He's well on his way to being a 4 year starter as it is.
There are 2 open slots with at least 6 guys competing for them. At Center you have Mike Matthews who is Jake's brother and was the #1 Center in the country out of HS and won the backup job as a True Fish in 2 days of practice. He came to A&M as a 260 lber and just weighed in at Spring Practice at 285. He doesn't have Lewis' experience but he has far more talent. Ben Compton who has been a spot starter and backup at C and G is also pushing him. At the other Guard spot my money is on RS Freshman German Ifedi who is a 6'5 338 lber but he has to beat out at least 3 other guys.
It's also noteworthy that it took the A&M OL about 3 or 4 games to adjust to the change in blocking scheme under Sumlin. Instead of drive blocking the Air Raid/Spread focuses on turning blockers to create holes or to push pass rushers out of their lanes. By the end of the year it was working beautifully. A 2nd year in that system is likely to have even better results.
The foundation of a great OL is the LT spot because that guy has to protect the blind side and typically takes on the best pass rusher. Jake Matthews is as good as there is in CFB. Jake would have started at LT for any team in the country last year except A&M and honestly had Joekel not been an early enrollee and gotten a jump on Jake when they were Freshman that may have been different. Jake is just everything you want in a Tackle. He has all the physical tools and is incredibly polished for a college player, though it does help when Dad is a 13 Time Pro Bowler that helped to coach you. He just flat abuses people and on the rare occasion someone gets a step he recovers as well as anyone you will ever see.
At RT you have Obuehi that also would have started at Tackle anywhere but A&M but instead was an absolute stud Guard last year. He is a RS Junior that is likely going to be a 1st Rounder. Dude is just mean, big, and brings it every play.
At one Guard slot you have 2 year starter RS Jr Jarvis Harrison. Jarvis is a monster 6'4 320 guy that can move. He didn't play football until his Sr year in HS and was a 2 Star project that Mike Sherman saw and immediately offered saying he would be a 1st Round Draft Pick some day. He's well on his way to being a 4 year starter as it is.
There are 2 open slots with at least 6 guys competing for them. At Center you have Mike Matthews who is Jake's brother and was the #1 Center in the country out of HS and won the backup job as a True Fish in 2 days of practice. He came to A&M as a 260 lber and just weighed in at Spring Practice at 285. He doesn't have Lewis' experience but he has far more talent. Ben Compton who has been a spot starter and backup at C and G is also pushing him. At the other Guard spot my money is on RS Freshman German Ifedi who is a 6'5 338 lber but he has to beat out at least 3 other guys.
It's also noteworthy that it took the A&M OL about 3 or 4 games to adjust to the change in blocking scheme under Sumlin. Instead of drive blocking the Air Raid/Spread focuses on turning blockers to create holes or to push pass rushers out of their lanes. By the end of the year it was working beautifully. A 2nd year in that system is likely to have even better results.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:55 am to bamabenny
quote:I agree. Saban consistantly has a solid top 5 oline.
Bama will be top 3-4 by years end. Top 5 to start.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:58 am to aggressor
News flash dude, bama had the best OL last year. There is really no debate.
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