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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:20 pm to
I highly freaking doubt that a team wouldn't have room for a combine player. that is rediculous to think otherwise.

ya they would rather take a chance on a freshman of being a better player than the guy who had been there 3 years and knows the playbook. do even listen to yourself?
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11213 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:30 pm to
The problem is that NSD is before the draft. Yes, teams would like to take back players who weren't drafted. The problem is that what happens when the roster is full after NSD and a player wants to come back? Do you just tell one of the freshmen to frick off? Where would he go?

That all sets a bad precedent imo, and it's not like coaches have a crystal ball on who's getting drafted. So they're not going to take a chance on one of their underclassmen not getting drafted as opposed to signing a freshman and being assured that roster spot is going to be filled.
Posted by DawgGone
Member since Oct 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:03 pm to
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Does the word "agents" ring a bell? Most agents of decent players put up front money, knowing they will collect come contract time. A player is not drafted, his agent wants his money.....??




If he doesn't get his money---He post Pics of your Mask Bong
Posted by JQBama
Member since Jan 2016
1099 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:16 pm to
Uh..your guys make a shite-load more $ by not declaring so I consider your response obsolete
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:18 pm to



Woo pig !
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19110 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:22 pm to
Should we post a picture of butch playing the skin flute!.....
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:23 pm to
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Should we post a picture of butch playing the skin flute!.....




Go ahead!
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24859 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:25 pm to
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underclassmen should be allowed to return to school if they enter the draft and go undrafted.
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I'm cool with this


quote:

If you're a big boy and make a decision, live with what happens.
odd that you took this stance when you took the opposite stance within the same fricking post
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4371 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:57 am to
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the second one would be a clusterfrick

I agree it would be for the NFL, but I'm a college football fan and don't care about the NFL. The NCAA's rules should not be for what benefits the NFL, they really don't matter when it comes to college football
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 11:30 am to
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I highly freaking doubt that a team wouldn't have room for a combine player. that is rediculous to think otherwise.

ya they would rather take a chance on a freshman of being a better player than the guy who had been there 3 years and knows the playbook. do even listen to yourself?



Are you serious?

Does the NCAA plan to increase the scholarship limit? Because the fricking draft is 2 months AFTER national signing day.

A school can only sign 25 players per year. Do you think a head coach will save spots in his 25 player limit just in case one of his former players doesn't get drafted and wants to come back to school?

And if a coach doesn't hold spots open for some undrafted players that want to come back, what does he do with the new recruits he signed in February? Kick them to the curb to make room?

An LOI signed on national signing day is a binding contract between the school and the recruit. The school can't back out of an LOI two months later just because an upperclassman choose to test the draft waters and when he didn't get drafted he wants his old roster spot back.

This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 11:50 am to
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The NFL could easily go with modified MLB draft rules.


Just instead of allowing them out of high school, start with the three years in college. NFL teams will do their homework and figure out who wants to go pro and who doesn't.. and assign grades accordingly.


Realistically they should back a couple of the smaller football leagues and turn them into developmental/farm leagues and extend the draft out to say 12 rounds. There are already a ton of undrafted free agents.. so there's demand past the 7th round.



I agree with this argument. MLB has several development leagues and the NFL would need them too. I would say that if they go this route, allow the kids to go after high school and get in to the farm leagues, even if they are required to do so for a year. This hurts college football as top end talent but the overall product would be as good.

As far as undrafted players returning to school, I have no issues if they don't sign with an agent and/or take any money but that requires more oversight. Once you sign with an agent you can't play college ball anymore, period.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10565 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 11:52 am to
It would be nearly impossible to regulate that system. Every player worth a shite would declare and have almost unrestrained access to agents and money, even if their intent is to come back to school.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:10 pm to
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It would be nearly impossible to regulate that system. Every player worth a shite would declare and have almost unrestrained access to agents and money, even if their intent is to come back to school.


Very true AND the NCAA would have to increase scholarship limits to make room on the roster for players that didn't get drafted to be able to return to school. And how would academics be affected if the player was away from class to go through the combine and then the draft?
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