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re: Being realistic here, with Texas & Oklahoma coming in,

Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
1115 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:54 pm to
The round robin was a grind.....all the big 12 teams knew us backwards and forwards ...

And the new coaches that won championships at lower levels were very good...
The new coaches figured out Lincoln’s offense and shut it down, we scraped by last year and barely got third in a year when TexASS was basically crap warmed over.....

I love tho idea of playing new teams , just for the unowned situation.....

I expect we will do as well in the SEC as we did in the Big 12????? :doublebird: :doublebird:
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3039 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:11 pm to
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Both have great football history. How many years does it take in the SEC grind to admit " This grind is a lot harder than we thought" ?



Yeah. It was really hard last Saturday.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6886 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:27 pm to
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I’m concerned the SEC underestimates Texas’ ability to come in and compete immediately
Nobody is underestimating Texas everything is based off of Texas is most recent 10 year record which is not Exactly overwhelming
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2408 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:30 pm to
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I seem to have missed the part where Texas won the game.

What you're missing is that it was a pyrrhic victory in terms of your stature. You goobers and all your sycophantic arse kissers here set an astronomically high bar and then you failed to come anywhere close to reaching it. So the only narratives left are either Texas is better than you think, or Alabama's star is beginning to fade. Pick your poison.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5604 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:30 pm to
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10 year record which is not Exactly overwhelming


Which means frickall, because Sark wasn't the coach for that time and inherited the shite culture from Tom Herman.

In 2000, the idea of LSU winning 2 titles in that decade would've been laughable. Things change.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48336 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:31 pm to
Bama didn’t “escape” Texas played not to lose and got beat. Coaches like Sark aren’t gonna last more than a couple years in the SEC so Texas is already years behind before it even begins.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:01 pm to
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I’m concerned the SEC underestimates Texas’ ability to come in and compete immediately. Predictions on this board about the Texas/Ala game now seem silly, in light of what we saw on Saturday. Ala’s team didn’t suddenly change. It is the same team that everyone said was so great. And it may be a great team. It beat Texas by a point with a load of help.


Arkansas says hello, along with a bunch of other SEC teams.
Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
4181 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:17 pm to
I'll believe it when I see it
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Coaches like Sark aren’t gonna last more than a couple years in the SEC so Texas is already years behind before it even begins.


Texas is zero years behind LSU.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1534 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:36 pm to
Seems like this is about the 200th thread on this topic since OU and Texas announced they were joining.

And every thread goes the same way.

Whatever happens I'll just be glad when the games actually b begin.

I will certainly give props to everyone here if OU and Texas come in and struggle. I would consider "struggling" being outside the top 8 of the conference or outside the top half of their division.

However, it is already evidently clear from just this one Bama-Texas game that SEC fan will have readymade excuses if OU and Texas have success.

If they have moderate success (like runner up finishes in their division) we will just hear about how they didn't win it. If they finish third or fourth, we will hear how they suck and can't compete.

IF they win their division or God forbid the CCG, we will hear about how SEC team "played poorly" or it was a "fluke" or the "refs."

Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18285 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:40 pm to
We already added two Big 12 schools. Last weekend they both lost bigly to Appalachian State and Kansas State. The grind takes its toll.
Posted by Foots51
Salem. Al
Member since Sep 2022
191 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:44 pm to
I'm pretty sure that Sark understands the grind and will see to it that his players understand what they are facing. I'm not sure if Coach Venables is prepared for what is coming. He's a really good defensive coach, but he never had to face SEC level talent in the regular season at Clemson. Those boys may be in for a surprise.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:53 pm to
I think both will be fine, and Sark will build a monster in Austin
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1237 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:55 pm to
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We already added two Big 12 schools. Last weekend they both lost bigly to Appalachian State and Kansas State. The grind takes its toll.


You added two mediocre Big 12 teams, you got two mediocre SEC teams. 8&4 has done better in the SEC than it did in the B12, so what does that say for the grind? This time you are pulling in two flagship schools.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4363 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:01 pm to
I think they know what to expect. They will both get better by playing better teams throughout the year.
Posted by starry78333
Member since Aug 2022
18 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:38 pm to
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Every conference is a grind


Wrong.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1254 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:52 pm to
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You really know how to make a great point.

Did you see Will Anderson lined up offsides on those plays? One of them was on 3rd down and would have ended the drive well out of FG range, and got the defense off the field. Instead, it negated the loss of yards on the play and gave Texas a 1st down. That drive would end up leading to 3 points for Texas.

So again, even if you think the penalty was correct, that was Alabama screwing itself.

Next drive. Texas has some success in the air. Worthy makes a great catch and..get a 15 yard personal foul called on the Alabama defender to go along with it. Penalty isn't a huge deal because it was already on the 3 just moved it to the 1. I assume it's like 1.5 or some shite being half the distance.

Then on the very next play, Ewers gets injured. In this play, Alabama is called for roughing the passer, which was a totally bullshite call. Adding to that, he throws the ball out of the endzone a good bit. Instead of it being about 1st and goal from about the 10 or 12, Alabama gets penalized and makes it first and less than 1 from the goal.

Texas on the previous drive isn't able to punch it in for a TD from less than 10 yards. But on the next play, they go in for the easy run.

10 points, more than half the points Texas scored in the game off these 2 drives. Both the result of extended drives and/or positioning due to Alabama's penalties.

Texas never scored another TD in the game.

Their next FG comes in the 3rd quarter. In which they started the drive in Alabama territory, and 15 of the 24 yards they moved before kicking came off a personal foul from Will Anderson(not sure what he was thinking). So again, Alabama mistakes = Texas points.

Next FG comes in the 4th quarter, but started at the end of the 3rd. Texas moved the ball pretty well, moving about 50 yards total over the drive. However, 20 of those yards came from what? Alabama penalties.

The last FG for Texas is the only scoring drive Texas made that didn't benefit from penalties. And that ended up being a 41 yard FG.

And again. You can say the penalties were good calls or whatever, doesn't really matter. The fact of the matter is Texas only had success when Alabama made big mistakes.

And we aren't even looking at the drive where they missed the FG. In which 30 yards off the top of my head were given to PI. Again, say they were justified or whatever, but the fact remains every scoring drive and potential score drive outside the last one came with lots of Alabama penalties.

And we are only looking at when Texas had the ball. If we want to nit pick, the play prior to the controversial safety or no safety someone from the Texas Student section threw a water bottle and hit an Alabama player. That should have been a 15 yard penalty with Alabama on the 19.

And then on the controversial play, the refs made a call, and then said after "well we made a mistake and I misheard the call" as a means to overturn the part of the play that wasn't reviewable. Do I really care, no because overall I think the play was called correctly in the end. But if you want to talk about what the refs helping someone, it was clearly Texas at that point of the replay review.

There were numerous times when even the Fox broadcasters mentioned Texas getting away with things here and there.

So at best, I would say the major difference between Alabama and Texas this past weekend was Alabama got called for almost everything possible, and then some. While Texas didn't have their shite called basically ever, outside things like false starts.

If you think the refs are going to call games like that in the SEC, you got another thing coming. Again, say it's because Alabama buys the refs or whatever, don't care. Either way, same result.

WHAT.A.MELT!
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9641 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Both have great football history. How many years does it take in the SEC grind to admit " This grind is a lot harder than we thought" ?


I don’t know about harder but I think people will realize it’s a very natural fit after about two seasons. Much more natural than mizzou was and even is to this day.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13331 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:35 pm to
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3) Give excuses when we lose. We lose because a team plays better than OU, at least in that game.

Is this a fricking Joke????

I’m glad you Mf’ers have finally acknowledged us as Daddy.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1254 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:40 pm to
Lotta folks not understanding what a recruiting bump you get by joining the SEC. Texas and OU are getting looks from recruits in places they never really did before. The types of places that make up the hallowed SEC.
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