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re: bamas/saban caught cheating again!
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:23 pm to CharlotteSooner
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:23 pm to CharlotteSooner
It’s not like Alabama wasn’t familiar with Helow to begin with. He was an intern in 2012. Spent a few years with Pruitt at FSU and Georgia. He also worked with former Alabama OC Mike Locksley at Maryland.
He’s also spent the last 10 months out of work. He’s being hired as an analyst. This seems like a nothing burger blown out of proportion by both sides.
He’s also spent the last 10 months out of work. He’s being hired as an analyst. This seems like a nothing burger blown out of proportion by both sides.
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:31 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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He’s being hired as an analyst.
Exactly
If you needed to replace a LB coach
You would have hired a LB coach
bamas continue to cover up for the ends justify the means
“It’s not fair”
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:55 pm to Rohan Gravy
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If you needed to replace a LB coach
You would have hired a LB coach
The coach he's apparently been hired to replace is remaining with Alabama through the CFP. So they can't hire Helow (who is a LB and Special Teams coach) as a LB coach yet, but they can get him in immediately as an analyst.
Michigan has advance notice of his hiring, so if they don't change their signals, it's on them. If Alabama by some chance did gain signal insights into Michigan (unlikely), this would just be leveling the playing field wouldn't it? Michigan scouted likely OOC CFP opponents last year (and probably the year before), so they've almost certainly already stolen Alabama's signals. Certainly wouldn't be cheating on Alabama's part, would it (since to cheat you would have to break some rule, by definition)?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:58 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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It’s not like Alabama wasn’t familiar with Helow to begin with. He was an intern in 2012
Interesting piece of the puzzle even beyond the fact that he’s being named an analyst
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:59 pm to Rohan Gravy
Most LSU fans understand this is just business and it's completely legal. You seem to be taking it personally because you want so badly for Alabama to lose and you're afraid that this hire could help them win. Where is your indignation that Micheatgan cheated (something actually against the rules) to benefit the team's chances of making the playoffs?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 5:59 pm to Tupelo
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The coach he's apparently been hired to replace is remaining with Alabama through the CFP.
Well there you go
Thank you for admitting
That there was no rush to hire a replacement
Till after the playoffs
A little nugget of info
That your bama buddies happened to leave out
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:04 pm to Rohan Gravy
Love how you conveniently disregarded every logical point that destroyed your assertion, and went right to an irrelevant bit of information.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:07 pm to Tupelo
I think it’s wise to explain how it is irrelevant that Alabama is hiring for a position that is not empty and at the same time is hiring a Michigan guy?
Who is the upcoming opponent …
And are known to be a corrupt program!
Can’t you at least understand how bad this looks to people outside.
I’m not finding you guilty before innocent but come on now.
Who is the upcoming opponent …
And are known to be a corrupt program!
Can’t you at least understand how bad this looks to people outside.
I’m not finding you guilty before innocent but come on now.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:18 pm to Foots51
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Most LSU fans understand this is just business and it's completely legal.
Yes
It’s legal to cheat on your girlfriend
Tell her that
It’s scummy and you bamas can’t comprehend that
That is ashame
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You seem to be taking it personally
Do you really think I take anything personally on this board?
Where have you been?
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. Where is your indignation that Micheatgan cheated (something actually against the rules) to benefit the team's chances of making the playoffs?
You bamas are clueless simpletons
I do not like Michigan
The only program that claimed more fake championships than bama.
I DO NOT think Michigan should be in. Period.
Both Your programs are disgusting cheaters
And most fans know this.
Any other questions or accusations?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:28 pm to Radio One
Doesn't it make sense to get the future replacement in as soon as possible? Recruits will want to know the new coach, and early signing day is almost here.
Again, Michigan has been been given advance notice to change their signals, something they didn't afford the people that they cheated. Ex-coaches get hired by opponents all the time (Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian, Pete Golding, for example, in Alabama's case this year). It's not against any rule, therefore it's not cheating. So enough with the fake outrage over a coach that parted ways with a program a year ago. How it appears to the fans of other schools is immaterial.
Again, Michigan has been been given advance notice to change their signals, something they didn't afford the people that they cheated. Ex-coaches get hired by opponents all the time (Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian, Pete Golding, for example, in Alabama's case this year). It's not against any rule, therefore it's not cheating. So enough with the fake outrage over a coach that parted ways with a program a year ago. How it appears to the fans of other schools is immaterial.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:30 pm to Tupelo
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How it appears to the fans of other schools is immaterial.
Correct
Thank you for making my point
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:36 pm to Rohan Gravy
OK. You got us. Nick Saban is trying to get a leg up on Michigan by hiring a coach they did not want and fired over a year ago. All of this is within the rules and legit.
Are you happy now?
Are you happy now?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:37 pm to Radio One
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The key is that he is a coach at Michigan
The key is that he WAS a coach at Michigan.
Are you mentally handicapped, or a dumbass?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:42 pm to Kashmir
I’m neither just someone who’s interested in this story all the sudden particularly since there are a lot of moving parts.
A little more gets revealed as we turn another corner every time, for example what was Helow doing over the past year. We know that the operation at Michigan spanned a large amount of time ? Did he just quit talking to harbaugh or are they still friends would you say.
Just picking at the threads .
A little more gets revealed as we turn another corner every time, for example what was Helow doing over the past year. We know that the operation at Michigan spanned a large amount of time ? Did he just quit talking to harbaugh or are they still friends would you say.
Just picking at the threads .
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:44 pm to Islander
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OK. You got us.
Thank you
It’s pretty simple
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:48 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Correct
Thank you for making my point
Thank you for acknowledging the fake outrage.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:52 pm to Kashmir
The key is
You bamas are exposing yourselves
It is absolutely obvious why saban hired a Michigan coach
And many have been saying this (Josh Pate) not just rant posters
It is extremely obvious why the hire was made
But go ahead and jump through hoops trying to explain why
It was just a coincidence
Why don’t you just admit that
Saban hired this guy to get inside information and get an advantage on his opponent
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:58 pm to Tupelo
There is no fake outrage
Because there is no outrage
Speaking facts is not outrage
Because there is no outrage
Speaking facts is not outrage
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:07 pm to Foots51
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Most LSU fans understand this is just business and it's completely legal.
Most of us don't give a shite because LSU isn't in the playoff and therefore it doesn't affect us to any significant degree. But I guess go off OP.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:09 pm to Rohan Gravy
All coaches do everything within the rules to gain an advantage, that's a fact. I recently stumbled across some old news articles about someone who had a major impact on LSU (and NFL) football years ago, Alvin Roy. He was pretty adept at gaining an edge, all within the rules of the day, so no foul.
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