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re: Bama will get hit with the repeat offenders clause

Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:40 am to
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:40 am to
Damn how'd you do that? Be careful man, we need you.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:43 am to
Edited...

...for fear of a Charles Robinson investigation.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 3:50 am
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:45 am to
Oh I gotcha. I am sure I would have been right there with you guys had I been available.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:48 am to
Well, back on topic , what was the start date of UA's last major probation, if you know. I think the repeat offender status is five years or less from that date.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:53 am to
I cannot remember the exact date, but according to this it was June 11, 2009.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:55 am to
quote:

Well, back on topic , what was the start date of UA's last major probation, if you know. I think the repeat offender status is five years or less from that date.


2009

quote:

In August 1995, the NCAA Infractions Committee found four rules violations by the Alabama football program. Alabama cornerback Antonio Langham signed with a sports agent and applied to enter the NFL draft in January 1993, and allegedly received deferred-payment loans. Alabama's football program was placed on probation with scholarship limitations, and a one year post-season ban (1995). Eight wins and one tie from the 9–3–1 1993 season were forfeited.[citation needed]

In February 2002, Alabama was sanctioned for providing impermissible benefits. The NCAA report states that a recruiter gave a prospective student $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment. During the 2000 season, an assistant football coach in Memphis, Tennessee claimed an Alabama booster paid him US$50,000 to encourage one of his players to sign with Alabama.[124][125] A secret witness that helped convict the University of Alabama was later revealed to be Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer.[126][127] The report included allegations of paying a high school coach to influence a prospect, violations of rules for honesty and cooperation, expense-paid visits to the campus, and cash payments to other football players. Alabama received probation from 2002 to 2006, a post-season ban in 2002 and 2003, and loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years.[128] Criminal charges were filed stemming from one of the incidents.[citation needed] The NCAA stated that the University fully cooperated with the enforcement staff.[128]

In June 2009, Alabama was sanctioned for textbook and supplies-related infractions, valued at approximately $40,000, involving 201 student-athletes in 16 sports. The football program was forced to vacate 21 wins from the 2005-2007, pay a $43,900 fine, and received a public reprimand and censure. The football program was placed on three years probation, which ended in June 2012.[129][130][131] The university stated "none of the textbooks or materials was used for profit or to get items not related to academics, and that the athletes involved who still have eligibility remaining have had to pay restitution."[132] Alabama's appeal of the ruling was unsuccessful.[133]
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:04 am to
thanks

harmonics
I have no idea what will become of this, sincerely. The NCAA is about as unpredictable an entity can be. If, for the sake of argument, a major violation is found going back to 2009 well.....that's going to be very bad. We'll see. Nothing to do but enjoy the games and await an action, if there is any. The NCAA may not even get involved.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:13 am to
It all comes down to what the University had knowledge of. I think most people outside of the Alabama camp want to believe they had the information all along and knew DJ was involved. But as the great Naval Officer Lt. Daniel Kaffee said, "It doesn't matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove".

This will be a black cloud hovering over Alabama until it is resolved though. :fingerscrossed:
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:17 am to
did you switch to being a LSU fan after the Florida loss?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:17 am to
I hate to see another team (no matter how much I dislike them) have to go through this.. Especially if it was just a rogue player trying to make some money on his own. But what really sucks is the lack of consistency from the NCAA. If they actually USED precedent then we could all easily guess what will happen. But they don't.. So we can't... And that's not fair to anyone.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:20 am to
After the PSU ruling it's clear the NCAA can do anything they want. Due process, no due process; fair hearing, unfair hearing, no hearing at all.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:22 am to
I would love to think that worst case scenario, the NCAA will slap Alabama on the wrist. But, as history has shown, that isn't usually the case. Hopefully Alabama's actions in the past regarding Andre Smith, Glenn Coffee, and Marcel Dareus will show that Alabama is willing to comply in punishing players internally with knowledge of the said infraction. I dunno...
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:23 am to
Selective prosecution.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:32 am to
Sure. How does tOSU, whose HC lied to compliance (the cardinal sin?) get a slap on the wrist? Makes no sense.
Posted by cornhat
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 5:07 am to
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