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re: Bama has more 1st and 2nd round NFL draft picks than Auburn has...

Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:28 am to
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This is the 2nd response thread I have generated this morning. Gumps are such an easy group to rustle
Of course. You threatened their manhood. Without posters and t-shirts they are nothing. Reminds them of the Shula days.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 10:30 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:37 am to
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No but I could pull a similar list of bust 5*s from Bama. Dee Liner Brent Calloway Tyler Love Kerry Murphy


Kerry Murphy was a 4-star
Dee Liner was a 4-star
Brent Calloway was a 4-star

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I'm not as obsessed as you to do any research and find all the other ones


To be fair, it doesn't take long to find Auburn's


Our 5-stars since 2008
Julio Jones - 1st round pick
Tyler Love - bust
BJ Scott - bust
Trent Richardson - 1st round pick
Dre Kirkpatrick - 1st round pick
Nico Johnson - 4th round pick
DJ Fluker - 1st round pick
Dee Milliner - 1st round pick
Phillip Sims - bust
Cyrus Jouandjio - 2nd round pick
HaHa Clinton Dix - 1st round pick
Trey DePriest - not a bust, not picked
Landon Collins - 1st round pick
Eddie Williams - criminal
TJ Yeldon - 2nd round pick

So, 16 that have gone through their draft year, 9 of them were 1st or 2nd round picks.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:40 am to
If you're going to call those 3 guys 4*, then Christian Westerman was a 4* too.

All were at least at one point a 5* on one or more service. None were consensus. You can't pick and choose your info to fit your needs
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:43 am to
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If you're going to call those 3 guys 4*, then Christian Westerman was a 4* too.


They were all picked using 247's composite

Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:43 am to
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You can't pick and choose your info to fit your needs


How else could 90% of their posts exist?
Posted by notagump
Member since Mar 2016
39 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:44 am to
All those high round draft picks, yet Bammer has only had 3 players chosen to the pro bowl as original selections. Doesn't count alternates.

More proof bammer is Bust U
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:22 am to
247 didn't even exist or was in its infancy when most of those guys were being recruited
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18282 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:33 am to
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Only one of those started and finished his career at Auburn.
Interesting. Auburn is known for that. Cam is also on that list, since he didn't start his career at Auburn. He was a one and done.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:36 am to
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No wonder the rivalry is so lopsised.

What's our (LSU) excuse?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:58 am to
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247 didn't even exist or was in its infancy when most of those guys were being recruited


Their 247 composite score is based on the 4 major sites - and so pre-247 their composite score just does not include 247 (or ESPN pre-ESPN recruiting).
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Their 247 composite score is based on the 4 major sites - and so pre-247 their composite score just does not include 247 (or ESPN pre-ESPN recruiting).
research Trovon Reed's ranking on the three other sites then explain to me why he's a composite 5*, top 25 player

247's retroactive rankings are doodoo

ETA: compare his rankings with Alec Olgetree's and see where they land on 247composite
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Not many have lived up to where they were drafted


Name the ones who haven't?

Trent Richardson and injury riddled Dee Milliner? Okay. Cool.

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Bama in the NFL:

Mark Barron (StL): 12 GS, played in 17; 116 tackles (leads team), 16 TFL (leads team) 1 sack, 5 PD, 3 FFs

James Carpenter (NYJ): 17 GS

Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix (GB): 17 GS; 100 tackles (leads team), 3 sacks, 1 FF, 2 INTs

Landon Collins (NYG): 17 GS; 112 tackles (leads team), 9 PD, 1 FF, 1 INT

Amari Cooper (OAK): 15 GS; 72 rec (leads team) for 1070 (leads team), 6 TDs (leads team), 3 car for -3, 1 fumble

Marcel Dareus (BUF): 15 GS; 51 tackles, 2 sacks

Quinton Dial (SF): 15 GS; 59 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 1 PD, 1 blocked kick

DJ Fluker (SD): 12 GS

Jalston Fowler (TEN): 0 GS, played in 17; 7 car for 13, 1 TD, 5 rec for 44, 1 TD

Wallace Gilberry (CIN): 1 GS, played in 17; 23 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 PD, 1 FF

Roman Harper (CAR): 17 GS; 73 tackles, 5 PD

Donta Hightower (NE): 12 GS; 61 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 2 PD

Mark Ingram (NO): 10 GS, played in 12; 166 car for 769, 6 TDs, 50 rec for 405, 2 fumbles

Kareem Jackson (HOU): 10 GS, played in 12; 58 tackles, 6 PD, 2 INTs, 1 TD, 1 FF

Rashad Johnson (ARI): 14 GS; 61 tackles, 7 PD, 5 INTs (leads team)

Barrett Jones (PHI): 0 games played

Julio Jones (ATL): 17 GS; 136 rec (leads team) for 1871 (leads team), 8 TDs (leads team), 3 fumbles

Dre Kirkpatrick (CIN): 15 GS, played in 17; 70 tackles, 16 PD (lead teams, 9th in NFL)

Arie Kouandjio (WAS): 4 games played

Cyrus Kouandjio (BUF): 2 GS, 12 games played

Eddie Lacy (GB): 12 GS, played in 15; 187 car for 758 (leads team), 3 TDs (leads team), 20 rec for 188, 2 TDs, 4 fumbles

Evan Mathis (DEN): 12 GS, played in 16

AJ McCarron (CIN): 3 GS, 7 games played; 79/119 for 854, 6 TDs, 2 INTs, sacked 12x, 14 car for 31, 1 fumble

Rolando McClain (DAL): 11 GS; 80 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 PD, 1 INT, 1 TD

Dee Milliner (NYJ): 5 games played; 1 tackle

CJ Mosley (BAL): 16 GS; 117 tackles, 13 TFL (leads team) 4 sacks, 7 PD, 1 FF

Kevin Norwood (CAR): 1 game played

Jeoffrey Pagan (HOU): 6 games played; 1 tackle

DeMeco Ryans (PHI): 13 GS, played in 14; 49 tackles, 5 PD, 1 INT, 1 FF

Austin Shepherd (MIN): 14 games played

Andre Smith (CIN): 14 GS

Damian Square (SD): 1 GS, 6 games played; 6 tackles

Ed Stinson (ARI): 2 GS, 15 games played; 11 tackles, 1 sack

Carson Tinker (JAC): 17 GS as longsnapper

Courtney Upshaw (BAL): 15 GS, played in 17; 51 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 PD, 2 FF

Chance Warmack (TEN): 14 GS

DeAndrew White (SF): 4 games played; 2 rec for 18, 6 KRs for 142, 1 fumble, 1 PR for 4, 1 tackle

Michael Williams (NE): 9 GS, 15 games played; 1 rec for 7, 3 KR for 18, 1 tackle

TJ Yeldon (JAC): 12 GS; 182 car for 740 (leads team), 2 TDs (leads team), 36 rec for 279, 1 TD
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by notagump
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:28 pm to
17 first round picks. Only 3 original selections to the pro bowl.

Bust U
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:30 pm to
17 first round picks, almost all of which are having a huge impact for their respective teams.

Something like 10 different NFL teams have a former Bama player leading their team in a major statistical category. Sorry bout it.
Posted by notagump
Member since Mar 2016
39 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:40 pm to
List the players. Mark Ingram probably led the Saints in rushing, but he probably wasn't in the top 15 or 20 league wide. Only had around 100 yards more than Cam did as a quarterback
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:41 pm to
Ingram missed the last 5 games of the season and still finished with almost 1000 yards from scrimmage. Was on pace to be the first Saints RB in a decade to finish with 1000+ rushing yards.
Posted by Spinthemusic
Member since Feb 2016
381 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:43 pm to
Mark would have dove for the fumble.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6762 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:54 pm to
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Picking arbitrary dates is our thing.


Haha, my first thought as well.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:02 pm to
notagump is melting so hard. Like many Auburn fans he assumed Alabama was done 10 years ago and would never be more than a 7-5 team each year. Fast forward to January 2011 when Auburn was winning the national title and he was convinced the Chiz was overtaking Alabama. Since then, Bama has won 3 national titles, gone 4-1 against his team, and has more NFL draft picks in just the first two rounds since 2010 than Auburn has had in all 7 rounds combined.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:05 pm to
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notagump is melting so hard

Then why start a response thread?
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