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Posted on 2/25/13 at 6:53 pm to Bassmanbruno
Posted on 2/25/13 at 6:53 pm to Bassmanbruno
So what exactly are you saying? Skipper not having a lot of offers when he signed, but ending up with offers from everyone. Ohio St., OU, Michigan, Ole Miss, etc etc. means what?
That Pittman can't evaluate talent?
Pittman can't out recruit storied programs known for producing OL?
Pittman can't recruit highly regarded players to Arkansas?
Pittman got 2 4 stars from Hawaii and Miami, literally about as far geographically from each other as you can possibly get and still be in the United States, seems like he's got something special that kids respond to and want to be a part of.
I'm glad it's here in Fayetteville and not anywhere else.
That Pittman can't evaluate talent?
Pittman can't out recruit storied programs known for producing OL?
Pittman can't recruit highly regarded players to Arkansas?
Pittman got 2 4 stars from Hawaii and Miami, literally about as far geographically from each other as you can possibly get and still be in the United States, seems like he's got something special that kids respond to and want to be a part of.
I'm glad it's here in Fayetteville and not anywhere else.
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 6:54 pm to Bassmanbruno
Obviously he had a good eye on Skipper and Koehler was going to UT before Pittman wasn't retained. He told our recruiting guys as much when he committed.
Maybe the issue he had at UT recruiting the instate kid was the lame duck staff because it didn't seem like he had problems recruiting at UNC.
Maybe the issue he had at UT recruiting the instate kid was the lame duck staff because it didn't seem like he had problems recruiting at UNC.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 6:59 pm to Bassmanbruno
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Guess you also ignore the fact UT failed to sign a single lineman the previous year - that's right 0 - now the offensive line situation is a giant mess following this season
You do realize, don't you, that it's hard to recruit to a sinking program? Probably not based on your ignorant post.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:00 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
How does arky get the best of everything? 
Pitman sounds so awesome from this thread. I'm surprised I never heard of him before today.
Best head coach, best stadium, best OL coach, best fans, best school, best, best, best
Pitman sounds so awesome from this thread. I'm surprised I never heard of him before today.
Best head coach, best stadium, best OL coach, best fans, best school, best, best, best
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:03 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Obviously he had a good eye on Skipper and Koehler was going to UT before Pittman wasn't retained. He told our recruiting guys as much when he committed.
Maybe the issue he had at UT recruiting the instate kid was the lame duck staff because it didn't seem like he had problems recruiting at UNC.
You would be right if Pittman was the one who found Skipper, he wasn't. Like I said - he was about to decommit even with Pittman on staff and had said as much.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:03 pm to Choctaw Hog
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You do realize, don't you, that it's hard to recruit to a sinking program? Probably not based on your ignorant post.
Even the shittiest of programs can land in state kids - who grew up fans of the program with 2 parents who went to the school. Pittman couldn't - what does that tell you about Pittman's awesomely amazing recruiting prowess?
Stop giving the credit to Pittman when Bielema should be getting it. You vastly overpaid for an above average offensive line coach is what it comes down to.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:06 pm to roadGator
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How does arky get the best of everything?
Pitman sounds so awesome from this thread. I'm surprised I never heard of him before today.
Best head coach, best stadium, best OL coach, best fans, best school, best, best, best
Its the awesome T&F program.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:06 pm to Bassmanbruno
Every UT poster on here was SO pissed when Pittman left. So you're really not tricking anyone 
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:07 pm to Bassmanbruno
So are you also going to discount everyone he signed at UNC?
The fact that Skipper was "planning to decommit" tells me the issue was more about the Tennessee program itself considering he turned around and recommitted to him at Arkansas.
The fact that Skipper was "planning to decommit" tells me the issue was more about the Tennessee program itself considering he turned around and recommitted to him at Arkansas.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:09 pm to Marty McFrat
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Every UT poster on here was SO pissed when Pittman left. So you're really not tricking anyone
Not really - he's better than the guy we have now more than likely. It's funny that you are paying him half a million though. The reason a lot of UT fans were pissed is because we went from Harry Hiestand to Pittman and Hiestand was just god awful so they had an inflated view of Pittman since the guy he replaced was so bad.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:12 pm to TheCheshireHog
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So are you also going to discount everyone he signed at UNC?
The fact that Skipper was "planning to decommit" tells me the issue was more about the Tennessee program itself considering he turned around and recommitted to him at Arkansas.
If I were Skipper I would decommit too when I had offers from Ohio State and Stanford - why he didn't go to either of those schools was pretty shocking to me with the level they are playing at and the education offered since he is a really bright kid.
And Butch Davis for your first question.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:15 pm to Bassmanbruno
So by your logic no one at Alabama is a good recruiter and its all Nick Saban.
And on Skipper:
Probably because he liked Pittman. Like he said when he committed.
And on Skipper:
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why he didn't go to either of those schools was pretty shocking to me
Probably because he liked Pittman. Like he said when he committed.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:16 pm to TheCheshireHog
OL Coach U
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:16 pm to Bassmanbruno
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If I were Skipper I would decommit too when I had offers from Ohio State and Stanford - why he didn't go to either of those schools was pretty shocking to me with the level they are playing at and the education offered since he is a really bright kid.
Commits to UT (Pittman lead recruiter)
Pittman hired at UARK
Skipper decommits from UT
Skipper then visits UARK via Sam Pittman(lead recruiter at UARK)
Commits to UARK
hmmmmm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:16 pm to Bassmanbruno
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It's funny that you are paying him half a million though.
It is nice being in a position to pay coaches a good salary and not be a financial mess, ya know?
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:18 pm to TheCheshireHog
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So by your logic no one at Alabama is a good recruiter and its all Nick Saban.
Sal Suneri and Lance Thompson really help to prove that argument. Lance Thompson was named recruiter of the year when we stole him 4 years ago or so. He whiffed continuously while here. They have a high turnover in their staff yet continue to get top 5 classes year after year.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:18 pm to Marty McFrat
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Commits to UT (Pittman lead recruiter)
Pittman hired at UARK
Skipper decommits from UT
Skipper then visits UARK via Sam Pittman(lead recruiter at UARK)
Commits to UARK
hmmmmm
Facepalm - you realize he was a soft verbal and expected to decommit before Dooley was even fired right?
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:20 pm to Bassmanbruno
But who was his lead recruiter at UT?
DING DING DING
Sam Pittman.
DING DING DING
Sam Pittman.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:20 pm to Bassmanbruno
So when a kid decommits it's Pittman's fault but when a kid commits it's because of the head coach
Gotcha
Gotcha
Posted on 2/25/13 at 7:20 pm to Hahawg
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It is nice being in a position to pay coaches a good salary and not be a financial mess, ya know?
Lulz - wise guy probably think the debt isn't 99% tied to our stadium renovations and new indoor facility. You think we were honestly in the red that long in order to attain that high of a debt?
You can pay him as much as you want - but you could have a top 10 offensive line coach with that kind of money.. not an above average one.
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