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re: Bama fans, how was Nuss as a recruiter?

Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:19 pm to
If you don't like what Bama fans say about Nuss then maybe you should ask Michigan fans. I bet they have a worse opinion.
Posted by Cumulonimbus
Alabama
Member since Jun 2014
623 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:21 pm to
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I had no problem with his playcalling in the 2013 IB. Our players just didn't execute, plain and simple.

Alabama was stuffed on 3rd and short a few times and tried running into stacked boxes. Auburn had the 13th ranked passing defense in the SEC. Take out the 99 yard underthrown touchdown pass, and McCarron is 16/28 for 178 yards, which is hardly satisfactory. Yes, part of that was execution. McCarron started the game off target and there were a few dropped passes such as Cooper's dropped touchdown in the end zone.

Personnel decisions are also a part of playcalling; a coach must select the player that is having a better day or is more suited to the goal. Kenyan Drake had a significantly higher rushing average than Yeldon, yet he only received 4 carries.

AJ McCarron got about 150 yards on three deep balls, 2 of which were underthrown and lead to turnovers on the following set of downs. The deep ball was the Texas A&M defense's weaknesses, but the team apparently didn't discover that until the 4th quarter when it had been exposed multiple times in previous games. Furthermore, Alabama was not running the ball effectively versus Texas A&M as they had done against most of their opponents. If the running game isn't working and the opponent's secondary is susceptible to the deep ball, then it makes sense to take a few more deep shots.

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The Sugar Bowl was just a bad performance all around by our team. Nuss didn't turn the ball over like we did.

McCarron was responsible for the two interceptions, but that second half is all on the offense. The line struggled to block Oklahoma's pass rush, so why did Alabama elect to continue to try passing versus an undersized defense when the Alabama offensive line couldn't buy McCarron enough time? The defense held Oklahoma's offense to 7 points in the second half, but the team couldn't overcome a 14 point halftime deficit thanks to the offense.
Posted by Cumulonimbus
Alabama
Member since Jun 2014
623 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:23 pm to
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Ignore cloudy, he is a kid.

Are you going to hate on all my significant posts now because of my comment in another thread? Let others form their own opinion of me. No one here needs your assistance. We all know how to read and make our own judgments about others. Thanks.
Posted by DrRichardHead
Member since Jun 2013
169 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:50 pm to
Kiffin's visit in December of last year wasn't a talent evaluation. It was a job interview. Obviously that's common knowledge now. A few days after last years SEC Championship game I was told by someone who has good connections to UA that Nuss was encouraged to seek employment elsewhere and that Lane Kiffin would be hired as OC. A few weeks later Kiffin is hired. Rumor was Nuss and Saban never saw eye to eye and it's pretty well documented how complimentary Saban always has been of Kiffin as a play caller. To fire the man that called the offense that set school records does raise questions but it has worked out so far for Alabama. I think Florida fans will have the same frustrations Alabama fans had with is play calls.
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3673 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:07 pm to
If he is calling plays look
To score waay more than
Last year per game. I'd be
More worried about my
Defense
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21681 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:26 pm to
Mcelwain is the better OC of the two. Put Nuss at a school that isn't just better than the competition everywhere on the field and the results look like Michigan. As far as recruiting, I remember both of them as "ok". Nuss did seem popular with QB recruits.
Posted by Sabear
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Nov 2014
270 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Think I read he helped produce a 3k passer and Bama had 3k rushing yds in a season under him. When Groh comes as WR coach, I'm sure he will be average in all aspects as well.



Nussmeir ranks just above Major Applewhite as far as offensive coordinators go. Not really a big deal for UF though as McElwain will calling the shots. Groh is beloved @ UA. You won't hear a negative word from any real UA fan. Our players LOVED Groh. They had a hard time adapting to Napier's style after working with Mike because Napier is a Grade A HARDASS.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52666 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:32 pm to
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Mcelwain is the better OC of the two. Put Nuss at a school that isn't just better than the competition everywhere on the field and the results look like Michigan. As far as recruiting, I remember both of them as "ok". Nuss did seem popular with QB recruits.



He was good at Washington too.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:01 pm to
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Not too worried about his OC duties


TAMU @ UA 2012 - 1st and goal from the 6 ... Nuss calls pass, pass, pass, pass.

I danced nekkid when he left for Michigan.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:51 pm to
I have a friend who was very good friends with Nuss. Nice guy but he was totally intimidated by Saban. Comes across as an honest person and the recruits liked him.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:52 pm to
Nuss was fired by Saban and sucked at Michigan. This is not a good hire.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:02 pm to
Let's put it this way: you can probably count on one hand the number of Alabama fans that are concerned about Nuss going to UF.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:09 pm to
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I am calling him good.


And even that would be a generous statement. Nussmeir was one of the worst playcallers I've ever seen. Nuss was responsible for losing the 2012 A&M game. My wife has a better feel for the game. He might be ok with McElwein doing most of the work but Nuss was not a good OC.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:12 pm to
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socraticsilence


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Yeah Reel, I'm the one whose off not you the guy who told all of us Boom was the answer and that this year he'd turn it around.


You are absolutely correct to a point. It wasn't so much as Boom was the answer in and of himself, but the fact we had a r/s junior qb coming back from injury ands the defense was going to be stout...and I also was too optimistic about our WRs improving...which part of that failure was the revolving door around WR coaching...but I was wrong. Boom is snake bit, one incompleted pass in the end zone when the ball hit the TE square in his hands and a few more plays in the USC game when we did something we haven't done in four years...blocked punt and FG. We could be 8-3 and add in the Idaho mismatch and we would be 9-3...but we didn't and couldn't.

Now back to your theory about power running backs not common in Fla. Trent Richardson and Matt Jones would like to differ.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:21 pm to
Dont like the Nuss hire for UF. I never liked him as an OC. Mainly because he had a propensity to bail on the run at the drop of a hat.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Think I read he helped produce a 3k passer and Bama had 3k rushing yds in a season under him.

When Groh comes as WR coach, I'm sure he will be average in all aspects as well.


This is just getting sad. How many former Alabama assistants are going to Gainesville?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41225 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:41 pm to
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Dont like the Nuss hire for UF. I never liked him as an OC. Mainly because he had a propensity to bail on the run at the drop of a hat.


Sounds like he will work out perfect. I am about sick of running the fricking ball.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:05 am to
solid resume for a young guy such as nuss imo


Michigan State (QB Coach from 2003-2005)
–In 2005, Drew Stanton passed for 3,077 yards with a QBR of 153.4.

St. Louis Rams (QB Coach from 2006-2007)
–In 2006, Marc Bulger passed for 4,301 yards (made pro bowl).
–In 2007, Marc Bulger passed for 2,392 yards and Ferotte passed for 1,014 yards.

Fresno State (QB Coach in 2008)
–In 2008, some dude named Brandstater passed for 2,664 with a QBR of 129.4.

Washington (OC & QB from 2009-2011)
–In 2009, Jake Locker passed for 2,800 yards with a QBR of 129.7. RB rushed for 1,113 yards and five WRs had 200+ yards.
–In 2010, Jake Locker passed for 2,265 yards with a QBR of 124.2. RB rushed for 1,415 yards and a 1,000+ yard receiver.
–In 2011, Jake Locker passed for 3,063 yards with a QBR of 161.9. RB rushed for 1,488 yards and had seven WRs over 200+ yards.

Alabama (OC & QB from 2012-2013)
–In 2012, AJ McCarron passed for 2,293 yards with a QBR of 175.3. Two RBs rushed for 1,000+ yards (Lacy and Yeldon) and a 1,000+ yard receiver (Coop). They had 3,000+ yards passing and 3,000+ yards rushing. Crazy.
–In 2013, AJ McCarron passed for 3,063 yards with a QBR of 167.2. RB rushed for 1,000+ yards (Yeldon) and five WRs had 200+ yards.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 12:07 am
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:27 am to
He can recruit, Sabán would not have hired him otherwise.
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