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re: Auburn vs Arkansas Film Dispute from 2013

Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:25 am to
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:25 am to
Two fluke plays will do that for you
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:45 am to
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While we're just making things up, I won the lottery today. Yay me!


Well use that money to buy a coach you don't have to make excuses for to cover up his lame whining.

"The coach's main issue? Auburn did not include a wide angle view of one of the Tigers' 2-point conversion sets, which it calls "Batman," he said Monday."

"Bielema is no stranger to issues with game film. The former Wisconsin coach refused to share film with Oregon State in 2012 because the Beavers had no game film of its season opener to share because of a hurricane."

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This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 12:47 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:53 am to
You realize that means the play was missing from the all-22 film and not that they included it but just didn't show it from different angles. Hence the comment that they knew it was missing because they saw it during the TV version. It's ok to stop being a raging homer for a minute and admit your GA's made a mistake.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:00 am to
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You realize that means the play was missing from the all-22 film and not that they included it but just didn't show it from different angles.



They have the plays shown from multiple angles. There was only one angle of that play missing, "The wide angle view". Bert said so himself.

Hence him saying: "So we can use other film and stuff like that to make sure we are getting the full picture."

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It's ok to stop being a raging homer for a minute and admit your GA's made a mistake.
I never said the GA's didn't make a mistake. I said Bert blew it out of proportion so he could whine to the media about Auburn.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 1:05 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:00 am to
Right. All-22 is wide angle...

Hence the comment about knowing it was missing because they saw it on the TV copy.

Again, it's ok to stop being a homer for a minute and just admit your GA's made a mistake.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 1:04 am
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:09 am to
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Right. All-22 is wide angle...


Like I said above. The play was in there and the one view was missing. The other angles were there in the other films. So I don't know what point you think you're proving wrong.

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Again, it's ok to stop being a homer for a minute and just admit your GA's made a mistake.


As soon as you stop being a homer and admit your coach just wanted to whine about something so silly.

Can't wait to see what excuses he has for losing this year. He has already started making excuses for why its hard to win at Arky.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 1:12 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:10 am to
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Like I said above. The play was in there and the one view was missing. The other angles were there. So I don't know what point you think you're proving wrong.


Because you've seen the film the Arkansas coaches got.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:13 am to
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Because you've seen the film the Arkansas coaches got.
Because I heard Bert say so and seen the media pointing it out. It was all over ESPN and the media here.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:18 am to


First off, it's impossible to actually believe your unbiased and capable of actual conversation when your incapable of calling someone by their actual name.

Second, Bielema clearly said that the film given, which is all-22 or wide angle as the media called it, didn't match the tv copy. I'm not sure why you keep trying to spin it. He never said the play was there on the film that was given and only an angle view of it was missing. That is 100% made up by you.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 1:19 am
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:27 am to
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First off, it's impossible to actually believe your unbiased and capable of actual conversation when your incapable of calling someone by their actual name.
I call him by Bert because everyone, including half the Arky fans here, calls him that.

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Second, Bielema clearly said that the film given, which is all-22 or wide angle as the media called it, didn't match the tv copy. I'm not sure why you keep trying to spin it. He never said the play was there on the film that was given and only an angle view of it was missing. That is 100% made up by you.

I don't know if you're trolling or just blind because its your coach but he said they could use other film for the play and also made it a point to say that that one angle was missing, "wide view", "all-22", or what ever you want to call it. They give films with multiple angles for each play. Not just one. If the play was missing from all the films and other angles he would have said so and not made it a point to say just that one. It became such a big story because how silly it was.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 1:37 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:41 am to
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I don't know if you're trolling or just blind because its your coach but he said they could use other film for the play and also made it a point to say that that one angle was missing, "wide view", "all-22", or what ever you want to call it. They give films with multiple angles for each play. Not just one. If the play was missing from all the films and other angles he would have said so and not made it a point to say just that one. It became such a big story because how silly it was.


He could use other film because they had the tv copy. It's even in the article that you yourself linked.

I'm still baffled why you're going to such extensive lengths to defends your GA's. They made a mistake. Move on and stop trying to spin it.

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:57 am to
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He could use other film because they had the tv copy. It's even in the article that you yourself linked.
It says "other film" not "use the tv copy".

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I'm still baffled why you're going to such extensive lengths to defends your GA's. They made a mistake. Move on and stop trying to spin it.



And I'm still baffled you try to go to such lengths to defend your coach whining over something so stupid. I'm not defend the GAs and have told you that multiple times. Bottom line is the GAs made a mistake and then Bert came running out to the media to whine like always and said it was missing the one angle view. I need to point to nothing more than the initial link.

"The coach's main issue? Auburn did not include a wide angle view of one of the Tigers' 2-point conversion sets, which it calls "Batman," he said Monday."

The SEC requires more than one angle. They reported this repeatedly when Bert was whining about it. If you can't understand that then you are a lost cause. Bert is a crybaby and I am sorry you can't accept that but whining over this is as stupid as when he did it and it isn't making anyone think any better of him.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 2:03 am
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:02 am to
Bert is already lubing his arse for the anal invasion coming. tape or no tape. Does not matter. Arkansas is pig fricked. Auburn is just the start of the 2014 pig roast through the SEC West.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:13 am to
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"The coach's main issue? Auburn did not include a wide angle view of one of the Tigers' 2-point conversion sets, which it calls "Batman," he said Monday."


And yet again...wide angle view just means it was left out of the all-22 film. More than one angle equals all-22 plus the TV copy. It's really not that complicated. You're whining just as much as you claim Bielema whines. Your GA's left it out of the film so stop making excuses. It's ironic that you say he's making excuses when you're here doing the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 2:15 am
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:36 am to
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And yet again...wide angle view just means it was left out of the all-22 film. More than one angle equals all-22 plus the TV copy. It's really not that complicated.
I know what All-22 is and I also know its not ALL that SEC schools send. It still doesn't mean the school didn't send him any other views of it. Bert didn't say "Auburn didn't send us any views of it". The fact he said they could use all film to get the full picture of the play, shows they had other film than just the tv copy. If it was like you claimed he wouldn't have any other film to help get the full picture of the play.

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You're whining just as much as you claim Bielema whines. Your GA's left it out of the film so stop making excuses. It's ironic that you say he's making excuses when you're here doing the exact same thing.

I guess you don't see the irony of your post about me whining?

He kept referring to the FAU game as the play he was upset about and said they knew about it for a week and a half but we had just played FAU days before he started claiming this. There isn't even any proof the view wasn't there to start with. The simple fact he broke SEC rules to tell the media about Auburn and the fact he ran the play in the game to be a smartass shows he was butthurt about something else. Especially if he thought it was a glitch like he claimed.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 4:16 am
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 4:00 am to
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And the SEC has done nothing
Yeah the SEC did something. Slive told Bert to shut the frick up. Even if there is a problem with film, it is supposed to be handled internally
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 4:02 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61625 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 4:07 am to
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Whatever happened with that?


Swain happened




/game
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:05 am to
Bert broke the rules, one angle missed as the Article said. You think Malzahn deliberately left off one angle ? Maybe Bert should learn the rules and abide by them, then we would not have to hear this crap.

The SEC office considers any discussions concerning film discrepancies confidential and will not comment publicly, but the SEC did not have a major issue with the film discrepancy, according to a source.

It also appears Bielema broke an SEC rule regarding film exchange. "If teams believe violations of the video exchange policies have occurred, it should be reported immediately to the SEC supervisor of officials and not be discussed in the media," according to the rule in the SEC's bylaws.
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:54 am to
All tape was sent. Bert spilled syrup on it when he was eating his pancakes, ruined it, then decided to whine about it. Bert gotta Bert
Posted by Arkiebarkie
Fayetteville,Ar
Member since Jan 2013
756 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:04 am to
Who's Bert? Goose Mazahn, coaches players to fall over and fake injuries, we do have that on tape...
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