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Auburn and Tennessee's biggest offensive issues : Explosiveness

Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:33 pm
S&P Explosiveness rankings

2015
#81 - Tennessee
#123 - Auburn

2016
#102 - Auburn
#112 - Tennessee


Both Auburn and Tennessee have Top 25 defenses and good running backs. Tennessee has a decent QB and Auburn has a decent OL. However, neither one can do anything explosive. Having to go on 10-12 play drives to score touchdowns is insanely difficult to do in this conference.

That's the main reason I think Auburn has to give Franklin a shot. White isn't a terrible QB, but their only shot to get more explosive is to have Franklin playing. It may backfire and he may turn it over 5 times, but at this point it is their only shot.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:35 pm to
If we only had a serviceable oline. It's unreal how badly they've regressed
Posted by DuncanIdaho
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:35 pm to
Yep.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:36 pm to
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If we only had a serviceable oline. It's unreal how badly they've regressed


Even then, Tennessee still has big play issues. Dobbs can't throw the deep ball consistently and Hurd can't break big runs. Basically the only big play threats are Dobbs running and Kamara. That's makes it tough, but obviously it is even tougher when you can't get small chunks of yards either. That is not a good combination.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:41 pm to
I'm really liking what the true freshman Byrd is starting to show. The kid is fast and plays a lot like Pig - only faster. Hopefully the playbook is wide open this weekend and our O-line tightens up a bit.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:41 pm to
It's hard to get explosive plays when you refuse to let your QB throw the ball further than 5 yards down the field.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:42 pm to
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It's hard to get explosive plays when you refuse to let your QB throw the ball further than 5 yards down the field.


But do you think Auburn's path to more big plays is Sean White just throwing the ball down the field? Teams don't respect him as a runner. That seems (to me at least) to totally tear down a key element of Gus' plan.

Even though it was late in the game, A&M clearly had to change their defensive strategy to account for Franklin. That opened up the middle and gave him vastly larger spaces to throw into.

Posted by m45auburn
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:46 pm to
I think Sean could produce explosive plays through the air, but I don't think Gus will let him do anything other than throw screens or short out routes.
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:48 pm to
My problem with that is, why can other teams have a successful pocket passing QB, but we can't?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:50 pm to
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My problem with that is, why can other teams have a successful pocket passing QB, but we can't?


My guess would be because 75% of Auburn's plays (maybe more), involve at least the eye candy threat of the QB/RB option. Part of getting all those guys open is the linebacker/defensive lineman/safety thinking somewhere in the back of his brain that the QB COULD run.

Gus doesn't have a whole lot of play action roll out, drop back passes in his system. So, when every throw is based off of the QB/RB play, your QB not being a threat is a pretty huge deal. Auburn's playbook just isn't built on a 3 step drop or even shotgun snaps and throws. It's built on deception.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Rabern57
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:51 pm to
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My problem with that is, why can other teams have a successful pocket passing QB, but we can't?

Gus doesn't develop them into good passers. Gus is running scrimmages (trying random plays no matter what works or doesn't) while everyone else is playing a game.
Posted by Fan of Football
Jeanerette
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:52 pm to
Tennessee used all their gunpowder on those prank exploding eyebrows. Not very practical but it was worth it.
Posted by SABANrulz1
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:55 pm to
Tennessee, UA cannot wait to come to your home field, All this bragging how UT was going to drop bama like a bad habit, I will guarantee you at the end of the game Alabama will be smoking Cigars. It's going to be bad we have a QB able to run better than Dobbs besides when he gets ready to run It's going to look like he has ben hit by a peterbuilt loaded with a hundred Thousand pounds.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:56 pm to
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Alabama will be smoking Cigars

Hey that's our thing!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Hey that's our thing!


Bish we been doing that for decades after TSIO



Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:59 pm to
Yeah but you don't have an opposing fanbase still melting about it damn near 20 years later!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Yeah but you don't have an opposing fanbase still melting about it damn near 20 years later!


Tubs was an all-time jimmy rustler
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
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All this bragging how UT was going to drop bama like a bad habit


Lol, where?


Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17019 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
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My guess would be because 75% of Auburn's plays (maybe more), involve at least the eye candy threat of the QB/RB option.



You haven't been watching much Auburn football the past couple of years have you?
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