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re: AU Fans- Transfer QB's
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:35 am to BIGJLAW
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:35 am to BIGJLAW
No one has ever thought Gus a QB mastermind. He was thought to be a master playcaller with a new system. Those 2 aren't true anymore and to Gus's credit he's finally recognized it and looks to have adjusted. I saw same run scheme but with RPO built over top
Now whether he sticks with Lindsey during tough times still needs to be seen but I am happy with adjustments made this spring
As for transfers it doesn't bother me. He has struggled evaluating high school QB talent and developing it but does great evaluating JUCO options and recruiting them. Whatever works
Give Gus talent at QB he can score. Problem is he can't seem to get it out of high school himself
Now whether he sticks with Lindsey during tough times still needs to be seen but I am happy with adjustments made this spring
As for transfers it doesn't bother me. He has struggled evaluating high school QB talent and developing it but does great evaluating JUCO options and recruiting them. Whatever works
Give Gus talent at QB he can score. Problem is he can't seem to get it out of high school himself
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 10:37 am
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:13 am to TigerPaw1
JJ was not developed or could not be developed. Gus' problem was recruiting HS QBs.
The list below is our HS QB recruits.
2016 - Woody Barrett (3 Star)
2015 - Tyler Queen (3 Star), injured not highly recruited
2014 - Sean White (4 STAR), but not highly recruited, only offers were Cincinnati, Florida International, Hawaii, Houston, Miami (OHIO), South Florida, Syracuse, Wake, W. Kentucky, West Virginia.
2013 - Jeremy Johnson (4 Star)
JUCO:
2013 Nick Marshall (3 Star) - Did well
2016 JFIII (NOT A QB)
2017 Stidham (4 Star)
The list below is our HS QB recruits.
2016 - Woody Barrett (3 Star)
2015 - Tyler Queen (3 Star), injured not highly recruited
2014 - Sean White (4 STAR), but not highly recruited, only offers were Cincinnati, Florida International, Hawaii, Houston, Miami (OHIO), South Florida, Syracuse, Wake, W. Kentucky, West Virginia.
2013 - Jeremy Johnson (4 Star)
JUCO:
2013 Nick Marshall (3 Star) - Did well
2016 JFIII (NOT A QB)
2017 Stidham (4 Star)
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:16 am to BIGJLAW
Good QBs are hard to find. At least the ones we bring in are good.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:33 pm to RandySavage
Thanks AU guys for the mostly civil responses. I don't know that much about MMiller and SWhite is more than serviceable but man when y'all bring one in that dude usually lights it up. I think Franklin was a miss and as alluded to earlier made no since to bring him in as a QB with the little film on him.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:52 pm to BIGJLAW
Gus isn't, and has never been, a QB coach.
He's an OC. He's never had any positional attachment as a coach. The closest he's come to being a QB coach is him showing his QBs how he wants certain plays carried out. Buddy of mine works the summer QB camps, and this is true.
Lindsey is a true QB coach, and this was something Gus was sorely needing, yet he felt comfortable having Lashlee there to be a yes man. He finally got rid of that problem and brought in an OC who was a QB guy and has his very own ideas on how to run an offense.
He's an OC. He's never had any positional attachment as a coach. The closest he's come to being a QB coach is him showing his QBs how he wants certain plays carried out. Buddy of mine works the summer QB camps, and this is true.
Lindsey is a true QB coach, and this was something Gus was sorely needing, yet he felt comfortable having Lashlee there to be a yes man. He finally got rid of that problem and brought in an OC who was a QB guy and has his very own ideas on how to run an offense.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:38 pm to WareagleKK
yep
Gus obviously doesn't have the Midas touch with developing QB's. Didn't help he wouldn't allow independent coaching before this season. That's almost as good as practice time for a fledgling QB. Probably didn't help to have(carbon-copy) Lashlee as OC. since Gus was almost all the guy ever had in the way of quarterback development.
Gus obviously doesn't have the Midas touch with developing QB's. Didn't help he wouldn't allow independent coaching before this season. That's almost as good as practice time for a fledgling QB. Probably didn't help to have(carbon-copy) Lashlee as OC. since Gus was almost all the guy ever had in the way of quarterback development.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 4:37 pm to awestruck
Thanks again, I guess I just assumed he was a QB guru but the responses have been appreciated.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 4:44 pm to BIGJLAW
Gus getting the production that he did from his offense despite Sean White being a square peg in a round hole was pretty impressive. They were rolling for most of the season. UGA stood on their heads, and Alabama and Oklahoma were two of the best teams in the nation.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:38 pm to VADawg
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Gus getting the production that he did from his offense despite Sean White being a square peg in a round hole was pretty impressive. They were rolling for most of the season. UGA stood on their heads, and Alabama and Oklahoma were two of the best teams in the nation.
Pettway being out is what really killed us vs UGA last season.
Dude had 120+ yards in 5 out of 6 games he played in leading up to the game. That injury hurt tremendously.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:27 pm to See5
White was banged up as well during the uga game.
To the OP, I think part of it too is many people/programs don't develop QBs well, or rather it is super hard to do. Kiffin did great with Sims, Coker, and this year with Hurts, but you also had several high profile guys that didn't develop enough to play or just weren't fits.
To me, what Gus has sucked at is just finding the QBs for what he wanted to do on O. His first year he got Marshall and Johnson (was a nice recruit despite the results). The next year we got White, who is a dropback guy or an air raid type. Next year Tyler queen, and the next year John Franklin and Woody Barrett. Had we landed D Watson or offered Lamar Jackson I doubt we would be as worried about "development."
The last two years have been better with Barrett, JF3, Stidham and Willis, but those two years in the wilderness hurt him. White is good btw, but Gus clearly doesn't want him to be the guy
To the OP, I think part of it too is many people/programs don't develop QBs well, or rather it is super hard to do. Kiffin did great with Sims, Coker, and this year with Hurts, but you also had several high profile guys that didn't develop enough to play or just weren't fits.
To me, what Gus has sucked at is just finding the QBs for what he wanted to do on O. His first year he got Marshall and Johnson (was a nice recruit despite the results). The next year we got White, who is a dropback guy or an air raid type. Next year Tyler queen, and the next year John Franklin and Woody Barrett. Had we landed D Watson or offered Lamar Jackson I doubt we would be as worried about "development."
The last two years have been better with Barrett, JF3, Stidham and Willis, but those two years in the wilderness hurt him. White is good btw, but Gus clearly doesn't want him to be the guy
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:32 pm to upstate
Lamar Jackson at Auburn would have won the SEC and maybe a natty last year
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:42 pm to VADawg
We probably would've signed him if we went after him and offered. We signed Tyler Queen instead.
You put Jackson in the nick Marshall O and he eats
You put Jackson in the nick Marshall O and he eats
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:45 am to Aubie Spr96
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Thinking of calling the emergency room...
TO BRAG!!! Am I right?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:03 am to BIGJLAW
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I guess I just assumed he was a QB guru
so did we.
But we learn fast. He is a X's and O's guy. Nothing more.
He cant develop QB's and is play calling is still high school. He just gets it right every once in a while.
He has a great system when he has the right parts. Jus dont expect him to build those parts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:29 am to VADawg
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Gus getting the production that he did from his offense despite Sean White being a square peg in a round hole was pretty impressive. They were rolling for most of the season. UGA stood on their heads, and Alabama and Oklahoma were two of the best teams in the nation.
Also didn't help that Sean White got hurt before the Vandy game. From that game on, the offense wasn't the same because SW had almost no arm strength.
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