re: aTm fans. What's the deal with calling UT the tsips?

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No, we do not have legacy admissions anymore

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Uh yea we do... they used to be automatic admission, that has changed but it is still a big factor in consideration.

Let me break it down for you... a kid might not be top 10% but is still in the sold 20% range ect., both parents are ex-students he or she will have a better shot than some kid who has the same academic profile but is not from an Aggie family.

It is still a big part of the acceptance calculation.

I got out in '08... I can say I knew sevearl people who got in that way or at least told me they got in that way.

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We need to get down to that rate. Why? I've never understood this mindset.

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Think of it this way... keep in mind this is an example... but it would be great if 100,000 high quailty kids from around the country applied to Texas A&M.

If we only let in 8,000 of the best and brightest we would have an admissions rate of below 10%.

We would look great in terms of rankings and have some of the best students anywhere.

Cool, I will take your word for it texmariner...

I knew alot of kids who applied '03 and '04 that swore they got in above friends that went to other schools based on the legacy points.

If they stopped that now... thats fine with me.

The admissions process is strange anyway... my younger cousin got out of the woodlands in the top 25% and she got in, yet I have had people tell me they graduated from other high schools in the top 15% and could not get in.

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If they stopped that now... thats fine with me.

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They did stop it.

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The admissions process is strange anyway... my younger cousin got out of the woodlands in the top 25% and she got in, yet I have had people tell me they graduated from other high schools in the top 15% and could not get in.

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What's strange about that? The Woodlands is packed with smart kids. The top 25% there is the same as the top 10% at East BFE High School in Nowhere, Texas.

The truth is that 90% of the UT student body and 90% of the A&M student body are exactly the same. Same origins, same outlook, same aptitude. Both schools are defined to some extent by the 10% that is stereotypical of each school. 10% of the UT student population are either Borg-like Asians or hipster commies with drum circles and Toms shoes who worship Obama. 10% of the A&M student population are huge dorks who wear painted overalls to games or enormous rednecks who chew tobacco in class, drive lifted diesels, and worship Reagan.

True Texan=worst troll ever

troll please... overalls f**king suck, those pic are all on google anyone can find them.

that first pic you posted is the Tcamp squad. yell leaders don't go to Tcamp so they make their own, it's a tradition for all the members to make their own. just saying, it's not like some random person making theirs to wear to games every saturday.

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And no we do still have legacy admissions (they are just not automatic anymore), along with Blinn Team, and easy enrollment if you are willing to join the corps.

A&M is a great school but we are not that hard to get into... our acceptance rate is around 65%. Thats good but not great.

tu, baylol, and smu are below 40%... Rice is at 30%.

We need to get down to that rate.

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I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, because your data is completely wrong. I have worked with college admissions and ratings for the State of Texas for 20 years and A&M is not easy to get into at all.

I've noticed that a lot of fans on this site have a very outdated image of A&M based on what the case was back in the 70's. The only thing more remarkable than A&M's cultural change over the last 30 years is the way academics has been transformed. A&M was never a crap school academically even then, but if you applied and met some basic requirements, you could get in. It was basically an Ag and Engineering school. Now, A&M has very strong liberal arts, education, business, etc.

A&M does not use legacy admissions at all. Not at all. You are just assuming that it does because it seems like it should. You obviously haven't been the one to listen to people complain because they are a multigeneration Aggie family whose great grandfather played three sports and a kid with an A-average didn't get in.

A&M is incredibly competitive to get into. In fact, other than Vanderbilt, it would be much more difficult to get into A&M than any other SEC school for undergraduate studies. There is no other public school in Texas that is more difficult to get into than A&M and UT. As for private schools, only Rice is more difficult. Baylor/SMU/TCU have incredibly lax academic standards. Not to say that they do not have some very good programs within those schools, but their admissions are much easier than A&M/UT. Rice is far above A&M/UT.

UT does have a higher use of the Top 10% rule to get in (they just moved it to Top 8%) but you have to keep in mind that UT has an international focus that puts pressure on their admissions for other students. In fact, their boasting of their "diversity" numbers is actually largely due to their international enrollment and they even capped their international admissions at one point. Visit campus sometime and talk to some people, and you'll realize that their focus is more international in nature.

Note: All those "hot" girls you see in their longhorn gear are usually from Texas State. In fact, I worked with a girl who was a pom squad member at UT and she was a full-time Texas State student.

The Blinn program is the equivalent to ACC to UT. Those programs are meant to help diversify the schools not fill spots that are open.

As for the idea that it is "easy" to get in if you are willing to join the Corps, that is not accurate. If you are a borderline applicant, it definitely helps over someone who is not going into the Corps when Corps numbers are lower than normal, but when they get up to a healthy level even that doesn't help. They have to meet the same minimum requirements as everyone else.

Your admission numbers on Baylor and SMU are comical. I'm assuming you are quoting numbers that were later blown apart as being falsified to drive up ratings in the college rating systems. There have been whole reports on that issue and Baylor is literally the poster child for doing that. SMU...come on. If you can pay, you get admitted.

I apologize for the long post, but I have tolerated ignorance about A&M's academic standards from SEC fans on this site, but I can't stand a supposed A&M fan spouting off this much inaccuracy.