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As the Grove Burns Vol. 2: Ole Miss Responds to NOA

Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:51 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:51 pm
Official Ole Miss Response

SB Nation Article

From AD Bjork on Huge "Freezus" Freeze

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This case does not involve a head coach who facilitated or participated in violations or otherwise ignored red flags associated with them. Freeze developed and implemented a broad, staff-wide compliance program dedicated to satisfying the NCAA’s amended head coach responsibility legislation in early 2013, and he has continuously worked to expand and improve upon that program ever since.
quote:

“The University has consistently satisfied each of the four pillars of institutional control: (1) “adequate compliance measures exist”; (2) “they are appropriately conveyed to those who need to be aware of them”; (3) “they are monitored to ensure that such measures are being followed”; and (4) “on learning of a violation, the institution takes swift action.”






Basic Summary of Charges


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Of the 21 football allegations, 15 are classified by the NCAA as Level 1 charges — the most serious type. Some of them are more salacious than others, ranging from former staffers allegedly fixing ACT scores to get recruits qualified for the football team to recruits allegedly hunting on boosters’ private land.



Leo Lewis is believe to be "Player B" who is a major witness for multiple charges levied against Ole Miss. Supposedly a recording used as evidence claims he took payments from Ole Miss and implicates other schools such as Miss State (Not surprisingly, MSU is not known to be under investigation, similar to 2010 Cam Newton)

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Lewis is one of the players the NCAA interviewed as part of its investigation into potential Ole Miss recruiting violations. He now plays for the school’s bitter rival, and the Ole Miss lawyers write that Lewis’ tweet “indicates that” he “enjoyed causing the University harm.” He’s not named in the response, per official policy on these things


From Official Response

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The University has also concluded that Allegations Nos. 9, Allegation 12, 14-(e)-(g), Allegation 15 and Allegations 16-(b)-(c) either lack the sufficient level of credible and persuasive support necessary for the ....... These allegations, however, rely almost exclusively on testimony from [Student-Athlete 39], a former University recruit and current [Institution 10] student- athlete, whose testimony was, at best, incomplete and inconsistent. In critical part, [Student-Athlete 39’s] testimony was either contradicted or not corroborated by his friends and family and, in several instances, refuted by objective facts. Nevertheless, the enforcement staff, and thus the Notice, embrace all of [Student- Athlete 39’s] accusations.1







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The school’s lawyers say Ole Miss has shown “exemplary cooperation” with NCAA investigators during a process that’s now stretched nearly a half-decade.





This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Jobu93
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:51 pm to
Incoming.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:52 pm to
Just want to make sure the right thread title gets pinned
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:53 pm to
Reposted in case this gets pinned

Ole Miss response summarized:

1. We did no wrong

2. Fake News

3. Frick black people

4. Women's basketball coach something something lost to a team that lost to South Alabama
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:54 pm to
In.

Ole Miss is going to burn.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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IN...just in case this gets pinned
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

we have cooperated fully with the NCAA enforcement staff over the more than four-year-long process.
Posted by Coater
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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:57 pm to
Given the NCAA's shitty investigation tactics and selective enforcement of some programs vs. others, I'd tell them to go frick themselves too.
Posted by GreyReb
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:57 pm to
From the Response:

The University has also concluded that Allegations Nos. 9, Allegation 12, 14-(e)-(g), Allegation 15 and Allegations 16-(b)-(c) either lack the sufficient level of credible and persuasive support necessary for the Committee to find a violation under the Bylaw 19.7.8.3 evidentiary standard or are contradicted by the objective and verifiable evidence. As with the institutional control and head coach responsibility allegations, the decision to contest these charges was not taken lightly. These allegations, however, rely almost exclusively on testimony from [Student-Athlete 39], a former University recruit and current [Institution 10] student- athlete, whose testimony was, at best, incomplete and inconsistent. In critical part, [Student-Athlete 39’s] testimony was either contradicted or not corroborated by his friends and family and, in several instances, refuted by objective facts. Nevertheless, the enforcement staff, and thus the Notice, embrace all of [Student- Athlete 39’s] accusations.1


1 In addition to [Student-Athlete 39’s] inconsistencies, the lack of corroboration, and the contradictory objective evidence, the denial of these allegations is based, in part, on the lack of any timely, meaningful ability to probe [Student-Athlete 39’s] story or his credibility. The University is particularly concerned that these allegations were borne of initial interviews with [Student-Athlete 39] that were conducted without notice to and/or participation by the University. See Exhibit IN-2, Email to Staff (October 19, 2016); Exhibit IN-3, Correspondence from University to COI (April 28, 2017). Moreover, after the University was brought into the investigation and allowed to attend [Student-Athlete 39’s] second interview, [Student-Athlete 39’s] counsel instructed [Student-Athlete 39] not to answer the University’s line of questions, and the enforcement staff did not demand his continued cooperation. The University was not allowed to attend or even passively listen in on [Student-Athlete 39’s] third interview. Further, when evidence led to the University requesting that [Institution 10] help with a limited interview of [Student-Athlete 39’s] coach, [College Head Coach 1], [Institution 10] rejected the request outright. Prior to submitting this response, the University sought permission from the Committee to interview both [Student-Athlete 39] and [College Head Coach 1], but the Committee denied that relief.

As a result, although the enforcement staff acknowledged in several e-mails with [Student-Athlete 39’s] counsel provided on its Box.com secure website for this case that [Student-Athlete 39] “and his credibility are central pieces in this investigation[,]” the University has never had a full and fair opportunity to probe [Student-Athlete 39’s] story or his credibility. In fact, [Student-Athlete 39’s] counsel matter-of-factly stated that he did not want to “subject[] [Student-Athlete 39] to cross examination type questions” in an e-mail to the staff explaining the decision to prohibit the University from participating in [Student-Athlete 39’s] interviews.

Along the same lines, the one-sided nature of the [Student-Athlete 39] investigation has created real doubts as to whether the information collected and currently available to the parties has been appropriately tested. See Exhibit IN-4, USA TODAY article (February 8, 2017) (discussing enforcement staff’s obligation to be “discerning consumer[] of information” and appropriately evaluate the information it receives). Faced with the enforcement staff’s treatment of [Student-Athlete 39], in combination with his inconsistent and incomplete story, the University has followed the Committee’s lead and emphasized objective sources of information and the importance of corroboration in taking positions on the allegations made by [Student- Athlete 39]. See e.g., University of Miami (October 22, 2013) (recognizing need to seek and find “corroboration
[3]

Rather than accepting or rejecting [Student-Athlete 39’s] claims wholesale, however, the University has taken each allegation and worked to sort out fact from fiction based upon the entire factual record. Some of [Student-Athlete 39’s] claims are credibly and persuasively supported in the record (i.e., Allegations Nos. 14-(a)-(d), 14-(h)-(i), 16-(a)). These allegations were either admitted by other involved individuals or corroborated by credible sources or objective evidence. As such, they stand in stark contrast to those allegations that the University denies. Overall, then, the [Student-Athlete 39] allegations present the Committee with the opportunity to address an important question for the enforcement staff and the NCAA membership: does an allegation of serious misconduct require corroboration beyond a general and inconsistent account of wrongdoing from a biased witness?
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:58 pm to
In
Posted by Freezus22
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Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Given the NCAA's shitty investigation tactics and selective enforcement of some programs


Two of the biggest cheaters of all time

UNC
UCLA

Clear proof of the selective nature of the NCAA
Posted by OldRebYeller
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:59 pm to
Just cut Freeze and Bjork and give us our spanking, im tired of this shite
Posted by MrMojoRisin
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:01 pm to


ETA 1st page.

This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:02 pm to
OM: "We dindu nuffin"

NCAA: "Lol you are so fricked"
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:03 pm to
Original thread already at 3 pages, delete this shite.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:03 pm to
OM: "IT WAS A ROGUE BOOSTER AND ASSISTANT THAT WEVE TAKEN CARE OF!!!! SEE!!!!!"
NCAA: "lol k"
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:


Original thread already at 3 pages, delete this shite.


Original's thread title game was too weak. This one stays, that one goes
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