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Are we sure LSU controls their destiny?

Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:26 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:26 am
Let’s say LSU wins out and everything else is chalk

1. Ohio St (13-0)
2. TCU (13-0)
3. Georgia (12-1)
4.

The last spot either goes to 12-1 Oregon or LSU

But would the committee really pick LSU?

Forget all that’s already happened. The committee established last night that at this moment, Oregon has a better resume than LSU.

Let’s see what each team would add to their resume by winning out.

Oregon
• Win over #25 Washington (7-2)
• Win over #13 Utah (7-2)
• Win over Oregon St (6-3)
• Win over #8 USC (8-1)

LSU
• Win over Arkansas(5-4)
• Win over UAB
• Win over Aggie (3-6)
• Win over #1 Georgia (9-0)

Keeping in mind that the committee already considers Oregon > LSU, is beating Georgia enough to overcome Oregon potentially picking up four quality wins in a row?

This doesn’t even include Tennessee in the equation, which is a whole other deal. Looking at this, i think it’s tough to say with zero doubt that LSU controls their destiny at this point
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:27 am to
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3. Georgia (12-1)


well that's not a guarantee at all
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
Who knows, But LSU has already achieved way more than I was even thinking this year. Right now we are playing on the house money and if we were to by the grace of God beat Georgia, it would be funnier than hell throw a monkey wrench into the whole college playoff.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
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well that's not a guarantee at all


I can guarantee you 12-1 Georgia gets in over 12-1 Oregon or 11-1 Tennessee considering the head to head
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
What about Michigan?
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
No one knows for sure. It's real far fetched to think TCU, Oregon and LSU all win out. Wonder what those odds would be? 100-1?
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
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Member since May 2022
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
The fact that it’s 11/9 and BK has LSU in the playoff discussion is nothing short of a miracle
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Are we sure LSU controls their destiny?


To winning the west and SEC?

Absolutely.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42542 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:28 am to
I just want LSU to make SEC title game, anything more than that is extra and no sense in even talking about until that point
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:29 am to
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I can guarantee you 12-1 Georgia gets in over 12-1 Oregon or 11-1 Tennessee considering the head to head


You sure Georgia goes over LSU in your scenario?
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:30 am to
I've only heard this in relation to them winning the SEC, which is still absolutely true.

I don't think anybody has ever said "this 2-loss team controls their own destiny to play in the CFP" other than 2017 auburn going into the SEC CG (who was then-ranked No. 2) and delusional 2017 Ohio State fans going into the B1G CG
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:30 am to
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I can guarantee you 12-1 Georgia gets in over 12-1 Oregon or 11-1 Tennessee considering the head to head


Tennessee, absolutley. no brainer.

Oregon, not so sure. One team would be a 1 loss P5 conference hcamp and the other would be a 1-loss non-champ. I'm not saying we WOULD be left out, I don't really have a definitive opinion on the situation right now. I'm just saying it is most certainly NOT a slam dunk guarantee either. As mentioend a hundred times, the only reason we made the playoffs last year in a similar scenario is because the other team we compted wiht for the final slot was a 2-loss champ. If OkSt wins the big 12 with 1 loss I still believe we miss out last year.
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1181 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:30 am to
Why would UGA be #3 when they just lost to LSU in the SECCG? The SEC champ goes, no matter what.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:31 am to
Can't disagree,but can't get upset,either. I've always been excited about the Kelly hire but also knew Big Ed left a mess.After the Florida State game I was just hoping for 7-5.

To be 7-2 and in control of the SEC West,and therefore SEC is pretty exciting to me.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36540 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:31 am to
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I just want LSU to make SEC title game, anything more than that is extra and no sense in even talking about until that point


I'd like to see LSU at least be competitive in that game, but even if we make it and get blown out, that's still one hell of a year 1.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:33 am to
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The last spot either goes to 12-1 Oregon or LSU

But would the committee really pick LSU?



Both teams have an argument.

Oregon-LSU lost twice we lost once.

LSU-We beat the #1 team that beat Oregon by 46
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3127 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:33 am to
The correct answer is no, we don’t know, no one knows. Just enjoy the next few weeks and let the picture come into focus on the field.
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:34 am to
It’s a good question. The committee left out PSU (conf champ) in favor of Ohio State previously so it’s not out of the question that UGA would be in and LSU not.

The way Oregon is playing, we would have a tough time hurdling then given they currently rank Oregon ahead.

I would definitely be upset if we win out and get left out but given that I expected a 7-5 season, I would also be ecstatic.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:35 am to
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Oregon, not so sure. One team would be a 1 loss P5 conference hcamp and the other would be a 1-loss non-champ. I'm not saying we WOULD be left out, I don't really have a definitive opinion on the situation right now. I'm just saying it is most certainly NOT a slam dunk guarantee either.
Maybe not a slam dunk, but when deciding amongst teams with the same record, scoreboard should be a factor. Most especially when one team beat the other by 50 points. Week 1 makes a difference, sure, but it's not like Georgia beat them 31-24.

Picking Oregon specifically over Georgia would be an absolutely unprecedented move and would destroy a ton of credibility of the committee in my opinion.
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As mentioend a hundred times, the only reason we made the playoffs last year in a similar scenario is because the other team we compted wiht for the final slot was a 2-loss champ. If OkSt wins the big 12 with 1 loss I still believe we miss out last year.
Maybe. I think a 1-loss Ok State screws over an undefeated Cincinnati more than anything.

Say what you will about the Big 12, but it has undoubtedly been better than the PAC-12 and ACC top-to-bottom lately, and a 1-loss champion from there will not be left out for some undefeated Group of 5 team that's also under consideration.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27623 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:36 am to
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Wonder what those odds would be? 100-1?


IMO:

I give TCU:

60% chance to win @ Texas
70% chance to win @ Baylor
85% chance to win vs Iowa St
65% chance to win BIG XII game

win out: 23%

I give Oregon:

80% chance to win vs Washington
70% chance to win vs Utah
75% chance to win @ Utah St
65% chance to win Pac-12 game

win out: 27%

and LSU:

80% chance to win at Arkansas
99% chance to win vs UAB
85% chance to win @ Texas A&M
20% chance to win SECCG

win out: 13%

All 3 win out: 0.8%
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