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re: Are Kentucky people getting restless?

Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:13 pm to
John Wooden won titles when there were only 8 teams in the tournament and they were only conf champs. Its extremely tougher to win now
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:14 pm to
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I guess "you salty" is the new "you mad" when not being able to handle getting called out on your bullshite?


I love how you refuse to get into it with us, like you are too good to even acknowledge our attempts to rustle.

But the thing is we know you can get mad. We have seen it.

Obviously our current tactics aren't getting under your skin, but it would be in your best interest to pretend we are so we forget about you the second our team loses.

You see, Aggies have this sort of superpower. If we focus our annoying ray on someone I PROMISE by the time we turn it to someone else you will be annoyed as shite with our fanbase.

EVENTUALLY we will find what makes you tick, what makes you angry, and spam the shite out of it on here. Except unlike LSU fans the mods won't protect you.

And don't pretend nothing makes you angry, we know some things do even if we don't know what they are yet. I think the secret has to do with Louisville, but even if I am wrong some other Aggie is close to figuring it out.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:15 pm to
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John Wooden won titles when there were only 8 teams in the tournament and they were only conf champs. Its extremely tougher to win now



Yeah, which means he beat a bunch of great teams. Kentucky routinely gets beat by teams with far less talent.

No one is asking him to win 7 in a row. But 1 is pretty pathetic no matter what metric you're using. The fact that that John Wall team didn't win is completely embarrassing.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:17 pm to
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Seriously? Look at the NBA. The same players win the finals every year. You generally have zero chance at winning an NBA title unless you have one of the 5 best players in the league.


Yeah they play 7 game series.

You don't think Cal would have won more if they played 7 game series in the NCAA tournament?

The NCAA tournament is an incredible sporting event, but it is the worst way to decide a champ in sports.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:20 pm to
Of course we would. Last year would be a perfect example.

I hear this argument with Cal, what about Izzo? What about those senior lead teams he takes to the Final 4...he has only one title.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Yeah, which means he beat a bunch of great teams.


Kentucky has done exactly that in each of his runs.

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Kentucky routinely gets beat by teams with far less talent.


The talent level in college basketball is EXTREMELY better across the board. That Wisconsin team they lost to had the POY and another NBA first rounder. They also likely have 1 or two more if you take in to account this years class.

Plus routinely would mean that they would lose a lot more regularly, but he's been to the Final Four over half the damn time he has been at UK.

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The fact that that John Wall team didn't win is completely embarrassing.


Again it is a one and done tournament. They shot 1-20+ from 3 that game. You play that game 7 times Kentucky likely wins 6 of them.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:29 pm to
This year was sort of a perfect storm for UK to not to make it far outside of the 2 guards. This was a dreadful recruiting class overall and team used the platoon system to negatively recruit against them. He missed out on a ton of guys you would think UK could usually get. Two of the guys they got Briscoe and Skal never quite lived up to what they should have been either. The bigs were never consistent for UK and that was always the fear heading in to the tournament. It didn't help that they had to play the damn outright Big 10 champs in the 2nd round.

Murray went cold and the bigs didn't show up. Bad recipe for them to win against a talented team like IU.

As Sam Vecenie wrote for CBS, this was sort of a transition year for UK. Next year's team will likely look more like one of the juggernaut's we've seen.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:33 pm to
Look at how many times Lebron and Jordan lost their first game in a series. If that was the NCAA they would be out
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5772 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:36 pm to
People will look back and say how in the world did he not win with Wall, Bledsoe, and Cousins and then again with Towns, Lyles, Booker, Cauley-Stein etc.

Overrated.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:38 pm to
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If it ever goes to 16 teams you will not see this type of dynasty. Its just tougher and it relies on actual playing of the game and not just what people think. And computers for frick sake. I still cant believe people take the BCS seriously.


I mean, maybe, but as has been started numerous times basketball and football are different games. Basketball is much more like baseball than football in that it is a sport that should be decided in series, not one game. Like RTR said, March Madness' 1st weekend is fun, but it's a terrible way to pick a champion.

However, Alabama had as much of a "playoff" system as one could have pre-playoff in CFB. They beat the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the country in 2009 (Texas and Florida), beat the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the country in 2012 (Georgia and Notre Dame). I would agree that maybe one of those years they lose to to a team with an extra round, but I don't think it is a given. The sports are just different.

Cal is great - in no way has Kentucky "failed" because they haven't won more titles, but I would think that people would be just kind of sit back and say "damn it" after being so close last year and the UConn year and only having 1 to show for 7 great years.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/21/16 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17058 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:38 am to
Well in fairness, we say damn it if we win by less than 20, so I wouldn't use that as a prevailing metric to gauge our frustration.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4371 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 6:57 am to
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I think that talent superiority gets you much farther in football than basketball. Just because you are good doesn't mean you are even getting to the second round of the tournament i.e. Michigan State.

I disagree, it take's 3 years of recruiting minimum to build a football team, 1 or 2 good classes can make a basketball team even if you started with nothing.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 7:07 am to
Didn't they just have a team have one of the best seasons EVER in consideration to be one of the best teams to ever play?
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