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Posted on 11/30/23 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 7:10 pm to
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So Alabama was the only team in 2020 that had significant advantages over everyone else? That seems to be the narrative.


I didn’t say that anywhere in my post. I said that in those circumstances, Alabama was the best.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 7:22 pm to
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I didn’t say that anywhere in my post. I said that in those circumstances, Alabama was the best.

Every season has ‘circumstances,’ be it a bad call, an injury to a critical player, or weather that’s unfavorable to a style of play.

Bama played under the same ‘circumstances’ as everyone else in 2020.

This is the same argument that was made to disparage the Bear back in the day…

“It’s easy to win when you stockpile 110 players to keep other teams from having them.”

Everyone else could’ve done the same thing back then. You all simply can’t stand the fact that Bama has racked up as many championships as they have over the decades, so you resort to sad rationalizations to minimize Bama’s historical and unmatched accomplishments to make yourselves feel better about your own programs’ inadequacies.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 7:25 pm to
No need to fret over it. You got your asterisk for 2020.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:19 pm to
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Every season has ‘circumstances,’ be it a bad call, an injury to a critical player, or weather that’s unfavorable to a style of play. Bama played under the same ‘circumstances’ as everyone else in 2020.


How many involve hundreds of cancelled games, thousands of players opting out, and entire conferences only playing half years?

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Bama played under the same ‘circumstances’ as everyone else in 2020.


Yes they did.

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This is the same argument that was made to disparage the Bear back in the day… “It’s easy to win when you stockpile 110 players to keep other teams from having them.”


No where did I say what you did was easy and it’s not an arguement. It is a fact that the NCAA said to players “hey last year was so damned weird you can’t play 5 seasons not 4”

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You all simply can’t stand the fact that Bama has racked up as many championships as they have over the decades, so you resort to sad rationalizations to minimize Bama’s historical and unmatched accomplishments to make yourselves feel better about your own programs’ inadequacies.


You seem a bit insecure and unwilling to acknowledge just how unique 2020 was.



Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:21 pm to
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Not bad for a fake team during a fake football season


Great thread, Govt. We all just have to overlook the small and jealous posters that chirp about invalid NC's.

We know how to deal with them; just laugh in their face and smile when we look at the beautiful trophies on campus.

It's kind of like the championships that aren't supposedly valid, according to the miserable and unhappy fans of other teams, from earlier decades.

They say that because the AP changed their rules a year after Bama won or the UPI changed their rules a year after or a year before or whatever they ramble on about, those NC's aren't valid either.

I always just remind them that the trophies are real and I know where they are at if they would like to see them.

And this one:



is real too, it doesn't seem to be invalid.

Posted by GolferOne
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Best season ever. The no fans makes the argument even stronger. Essentially more games, vs top competition, with no traditional home field advantage.



Damn, the delusion is real
Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:28 pm to
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You seem a bit insecure and unwilling to acknowledge just how unique 2020 was.


Why couldn't every other team and every one else do just as good as Alabama did that season? Was it 'cause of refs? The REC? The SEC HQ being in BirmiLoosa?

Alabama held it together while all these other teams and players and coaches had less cohesion, less team-spirit, less drive, less determination to be champions? Was that it?

They all voluntarily chose to not do what Bama was able to do. They were lazy and unmotivated and quitters and losers and they (for the lsu fans among us) didn't have the chest Alabama had. They folded when the going got tough, like frightened women.

Did the deer antler spray prevent the seasonal flu from affecting Alabama like it apparently did every other single team in college football?

Can someone explain things a little better so we will all understand why Bama won the NC that season and no other teams did? Be sure to make an itemized list of all the advantages given to Alabama that season that were unfairly taken away from other teams.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Why couldn't every other team and every one else do just as good as Alabama did that season? Was it 'cause of refs? The REC? The SEC HQ being in BirmiLoosa?


Maybe their team was unlucky with Covid exposure? Perhaps they didn’t have similar depth? Could be their state out restrictions on them Bama didn’t face that impacted their preparation? Too many variables to know. And it doesn’t matter why, you won the games. But their is an * there to denote one of the most bizarre years in sports (and most peoples lifetimes in general). Your championship is real. Had nothing to do with any of the 3 things you listed.
Posted by GolferOne
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Damn, the delusion is real


Your delusion does seem to be affecting you, GolferOne. Alabama took what was given to every other team and what was taken away from every other team and consciously decided to beat the dog-shite out of each team they faced that season just to prove a point about others being sissies. They did it to try to get them to behave like men and play the game and to take football seriously.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:36 pm to
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It is and they hate it


It isn’t just that they hate that Alabama won it in 2020. They would hate it for that fact alone.

But why they hate it so much is the Tigers won the natty in 2019 and thought they were on the verge of a dynasty, al la Alabama. And then they proceeded to go 5-5 and 6-7 the next two seasons Not only did they fail to have a dynasty, they failed to have a winning season. That is why they hate 2020 so much. It reminds them of that, and their program’s history.

If they had been good in 2020, then yes, 2020 would count. But since they weren’t 2020 doesn’t count.
Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:40 pm to
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Maybe their team was unlucky with Covid exposure? Perhaps they didn’t have similar depth? Could be their state out restrictions on them Bama didn’t face that impacted their preparation? Too many variables to know. And it doesn’t matter why, you won the games. But their is an * there to denote one of the most bizarre years in sports (and most peoples lifetimes in general). Your championship is real. Had nothing to do with any of the 3 things you listed.


No, there is no asterisk. Bama played by the rules provided to every single other team and beat every opponent they faced, who played under the exact same circumstances, and the result was a beautiful 13-0 season.

Domination and brutal simplicity were the order of the day. Nothing was complicated about it. They just took what they had and made the best of it, which every other team also had the opportunity to achieve if they had so desired.
Posted by GolferOne
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:45 pm to
I think it’s deluded to say that was the greatest season ever. If anyone thinks that (pretty sure that’s only Alabama fans), that’s their prerogative. Just don’t expect to be taken seriously
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:49 pm to
It only makes sense that if 2020 doesn’t count because of Covid, since players are still playing football this year because of the extra year of eligibility granted because of Covid (I see you Penix and Nix), that no seasons really count since 2019. It is all tainted.

Sorry Georgia.

LSU, you are still national champs despite your 61% winning percentage since then.
Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:50 pm to
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I think it’s deluded to say that was the greatest season ever. If anyone thinks that (pretty sure that’s only Alabama fans), that’s their prerogative. Just don’t expect to be taken seriously


Well, just statistically and aesthetically and every other ally way one can think of it was the best season ever by an SEC team, maybe any team ever.

That you can't accept that doesn't make you dumber than you likely are, it just means that most humans wouldn't trust your judgement about anything, ever.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Yellowhammer Bammer
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:01 pm to
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LSU, you are still national champs despite your 61% winning percentage since then.


Actually, according to current NCAA guidelines, the 5-5 season following their 15-0 NC season does invalidate the 2019 season for lsu.

So, in actuality and if we all want to just be honest, lsu's 2019 season and 2020 NC victory is technically invalid. In the record books, it was actually given to Clemson that season.

I'm a purist, personally, so I say if lsu won it on the field that season they should be able to keep it no matter the subsequent 5-5 season.

Go Tigers!

This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by austiger
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:46 pm to
This

Bama's 3 fluid touchdowns are the only things keeping it from being a blowout.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:48 pm to
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That 2020 Alabama team finished the season as the greatest scoring offense statistically in SEC history


Hard to accept that when A. you ONLY played 10 games & B. an ALL CONF. schedule

So, it's easy to pad stats when you have 2 MORE (& only) SEC opponents.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:54 pm to
I’d say something else amazing is the streak of QBs Alabama has had(not even touching RBs and WRs) in a row…Jalen Hurts, Tua, Mac Jones(Natty winner and NFL starter), Bryce Young(Heisman winner, #1 pick), now Milroe. That’s been a nice trip!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:07 pm to
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They just took what they had and made the best of it, which every other team also had the opportunity to achieve if they had so desired.


I don't think the randomness of who got sick & when was something anybody had control over. Hince why the SEC (& probably other conferences) had to announce each week if games were cancelled (TA&M, Miss., UGA, & Vandy only played 9).
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