re: Alabama: 5 yards per play/Ole Miss 6.7 yards per play

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OM causing you to make 4 of the 5 turnovers and giving up 0 of their own is also a form of domination.

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OM caused 1 of those 5 turnovers. The two ST fumbles were not stripped. They just coughed up the ball. Two of the three interceptions went right to a defensive back when there were no WRs around. Only one of those turnovers was forced and that was the last turnover of the game.

Bottom line. We lost. And the fact that we only lost by 6 after coughing the ball up 5 times is a testament to just how good we are. Ole Miss will lose at least 3 games this year.

Your life must really suck

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People are all "Alabama put up 500 yards on the best defense from last year" but it took them 101 plays to do it. On the flip side, Ole Miss went 433 yards on just 65 plays for a much better average.

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Those two plays that went for long yardage really help their average. If you remove those two plays from the game, they averaged 4.6 yards per play. Alabama still averages at around 5 yards per play.

I never made that argument. You are typing an awful lot to make pretty simple points. How far past the Los was any OM linemen when Kelly let go of the football? More than 3? Less than three? That's all that matters. You keep bringing up these strawman arguments that I haven't made in this thread or on this website since the game ended. They mean literally nothing.

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He happened to keep running and was around 4-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage when Kelly released the ball, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the play. It would've simply been a lucky break for Alabama since a lineman not involved in the play kept running and drew a flag that negated the TD.

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Ok so he was more than 3 yards beyond the line when Chad let go of the ball. So if I'm not mistaken a flag could have been thrown on the play for ineligible receiver down field. Right?

AU is bamas Daddy lil feller.

Nah. Enjoying nice free steak dinner while talking bit o trash at the moment.

3 out of the last 4 and the end of Gus Malzahn? Hardly.

This would be the third Auburn coach's hide that Saban will have skinned. Tuberville Chizik and now Malzahn. All I can say is BOOM!!!!!!

The CB was running with the wideout until he noticed he was the only one that could keep Kelly from getting the first down on the play. So he drew up which the picture shows. If you just look at the picture, it may appear that the CB was positioned like that at the beginning of the play but that wasn't the case, he was running with the WR and only stopped to turn around and attempt to make a play on the QB. The picture captures the change in momentum of the CB.

At that time, no lineman was even beyond 2 yards past the line of scrimmage and they are all engaged in their original blocks.

Even the Safety is biting and going for the run and there is not a single lineman beyond 2 yards from scrimmage.

So what does it have to do with a lineman being downfield?

Obviously, nothing. Because no defender's action was contingent upon what arbitrary yardage a lineman happened to be downfield. So the rule is moot on this play which make the whole "illegal play" thing laughable.

Isn't the whole argument from the Alabama side "Well, our DBs only let the receiver go because a lineman was illegally downfield and if he wasn't illegally downfield our DBs would've played pass and the TD would've never happened"?

Since that's the argument, it's clear that it's simply false and Saban has just conjured it up as a selling point to shift the blame from himself.

As it stands, the lineman could've stopped right there being 2 yards beyond scrimmage and the result of the play would've been exactly the same. He happened to keep running and was around 4-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage when Kelly released the ball, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the play. It would've simply been a lucky break for Alabama since a lineman not involved in the play kept running and drew a flag that negated the TD.

BOOM

I guess

Those two plays that went for long yardage really help their average. If you remove those two plays from the game, they averaged 4.6 yards per play. Alabama still averages at around 5 yards per play.
This post was edited on 9/24 at 11:04 pm

Yea, but why would you remove the plays? Questionable or not, they happened, they counted, we scored, y'all pouted, life goes on, get the frick over it!

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Saban made the argument, which is the general argument for the arbitrary "3 yards" rule anyway. It proved to not even matter on this play.

It looks like you're trying to be the guy that takes the black and white stance that a penalty ended up occurring even though it had no effect on the play, so the play shouldn't be allowed to stand. Written in another way, you're the guy that replays every play and points out holding and puts the ending score to every game ever played in your Notebook of College Football History as 0-0 since holding happens on every play.

That's a lame way to approach the game.

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The fact of the matter is, a penalty could have been thrown on the play which would have negated the TD. The call may have changed be course of the game. You have been adamant so far the linemen's positioning was inconsequential to the play because their position had no effect on the outcome. Wrong. Their positioning is the only thing that matters to what I'm talking about. You have also been adamant that the CBs reading of the play negated any kind of penalty. Wrong. The cornerbacks positions doesn't have anything to do with ineligible receiver downfield. The fact of the matter is nearly everything you have posted towards me has been wrong, strawman bullshite. Stop bringing up Saban. He has nothing to do with this. Now you are saying that it's a lame way to look at the game. That's cool. You made a pretty hilarious jab about notebooks and 0-0 ties. Good shite. You were shown to be wrong here. Your OP is a troll. You should stick to lurking.