re: Alabama 5 stars by position

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Eddie Williams was kicked off the team for violent behavior. He was a 5 star as well

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DJ Pettway was a 4* and the main aggressor in the incident that got both him and Williams kicked off the team, but he was allowed back.

I guess DL was a position of need and safety wasn't.

Y'all do good with discipline as long as y'all don't need the player. If Cam Robinson had been a bust at a position that was loaded anyway I bet he would have been gone ala Dee Hart. But he wasn't, so he ran some suicides over the summer and didn't miss a down come game time

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Discipline is Saban's biggest weakness though. 

The issue here is that this thread is about a 5 star roster yet for some reason we are talking about character and integrity.

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You're right on both counts. I'll quit derailing the thread now and let y'all get back to your own circle jerk

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All of those NFL players and still haven't finished higher than 3rd in your division in 6 years.

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And people still wonder why we fired Les....

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All those 5 stars over the years and still can't top the list of most NFL players by one school.

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Even more lies. Check your facts bro before coming here and making yourself look foolish.

At Bama they may kick out a 3* player or a guy that ends up a bust, but for example if you're a 5* LB and considered one of the better players on the team then you're free to do something like run over a guy with your car in front of a bar and then get out and break his jaw ... Get caught with a stolen handgun (a felony) if you're the star 5* LT... if you're good enough not only will the team and school look the other way, they'll get the law to do the same


At Auburn we hold people accountable for their actions.

Go ahead, go full ITAT. Say it's because the REC runs the justice system in the state of Alabama and frames AU players while at the same time looking the other way for Bama players. You know you want to.

I don't understand the OP.

Everyone knows Bama is loaded.

This is like making a thread stating grass on my lawn is green.

What is the point of the post?

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Go ahead, go full ITAT. Say it's because the REC runs the justice system in the state of Alabama and frames AU players while at the same time looking the other way for Bama players. You know you want to.

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. Never go full ITAT.

Star ratings are for nerds. Yes higher rated stars at times pan out, but if you look at players in the NFL and see their star ratings, many were 3 stars or less. That's why football camps let coaches find those diamonds in the rough. Teams like Wisconsin excel at that. Prime examples, Morris Claiborne was a 3 star, Jim Thorpe award winner and was drafted 6th overall. Jamaal Anderson, 2 star, drafted 8th overall in the NFL out of Arkansas, Tyson Jackson, a 2 star was drafted #3 overall in the NFL draft. Last but not least I'll give you your beloved Mark Ingram who was a 3 star, Heisman winner and still plays in the NFL.

You have proof that more 5 stars get drafted??

Here is the proof buddy. Sorry for calling you stupid. Just read the article LINK

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2017 Pro Bowl rosters: Do recruiting star ratings actually predict NFL success?
By Ben Kercheval Dec 21, 2016 • 2 min read

When it comes to winning a national championship in college, the recruiting star system matters. There's a science behind this, but all you actually have to do is look at the past several national title winners and where they finished in recruiting the 3-4 years prior. Five-star and 4-star players dominate these rosters, particularly when it comes to recent champions like Alabama, Ohio State and Florida State.
However, when it comes to winning a Super Bowl or making the Pro Bowl, how prospects rated out of high school or JUCO seems to matter less.
There are a few reasons for this. For one, not every player in the league was around at the time recruiting rankings became a thing, though that number is getting smaller by the year. Two, stars aren't an indicator of performance at the professional level of the game. Ratings are made by evaluators based on the level of a player's talent and how a particular recruit projects as a success playing college football.
And three, the math doesn't favor a high percentage of blue-chip recruits, and it never will.


With the 2017 Pro Bowl rosters being released, it's interesting to see how each player rated coming out of high school or JUCO. The players are placed into categories below based on their rating, from 5-star prospects to ones that weren't rated. 247Sports Composite rankings were used to provide a more complete assessment of the player as a recruit, though this admittedly gets more difficult the further back you go.
5-stars (11)
WR A.J. Green (Cincinnati)
WR Julio Jones (Atlanta)
RB DeMarco Murray (Tennessee)
DE Jadeveon Clowney (Houston)
DB Eric Berry (Kansas City)
TE Greg Olsen (Carolina)
DE Everson Griffen (Minnesota)
DT Gerald McCoy (Tampa Bay)
DB Patrick Peterson (Arizona)
DB HaHa Clinton-Dix (Green Bay)
DB Landon Collins (New York Giants)
4-star (24)

RB LeSean McCoy (Buffalo)
WR Tyreek Hill (Kansas City)
OL Joe Thomas (Cleveland)
WR Amari Cooper (Oakland)
OL Taylor Lewan (Tennessee)
OL Maurkice Pouncey (Pittsburgh)
QB Derek Carr (Oakland)
DT Ndamukong Suh (Miami)
LB Dont'a Hightower (New England)
LB C.J. Mosley (Baltimore)
DB Reggie Nelson (Oakland)
DE Cameron Wake (Miami)
OL Tyron Smith (Dallas)
WR Odell Beckham (New York Giants)
WR Larry Fitzgerald (Arizona)
RB Ezekiel Elliott (Dallas)
RB Devonta Freeman (Atlanta)
DT Fletcher Cox (Philadelphia)
DB Janoris Jenkins (New York Giants)
DB Harrison Smith (Minnesota)
OL Zack Martin (Dallas)
TE Jordan Reed (Washington)
OL Jason Peters (Philadelphia)
WR Cordarrelle Patterson (Minnesota)
3-star (26)
OL David DeCastro (Pittsburgh)
LB Von Miller (Denver)
TE Travis Kelce (Kansas City)
DT Geno Atkins (Cincinnati)
DE Jurrell Casey (Tennessee)
LB Brian Orakpo (Tennessee)
DB Marcus Peters (Kansas City)
OL Marshal Yanda (Baltimore)
OL Kelechi Osemele (Oakland)
RB Le'Veon Bell (Pittsburgh)
DB Casey Hayward (San Diego)
DB Devin McCourty (New England)
PK Justin Tucker (Baltimore)
QB Aaron Rodgers (Green Bay)
DT Aaron Donald (Los Angeles)
WR Mike Evans (Tampa Bay)
OL Trent Williams (Washington)
OL Brandon Scherff (Washington)
QB Matt Ryan (Atlanta)
QB Dak Prescott (Dallas)
LB Vic Beasley (Atlanta)
LB Ryan Kerrigan (Washington)
LB Luke Kuechly (Carolina)
DB Richard Sherman (Seattle)
OL Travis Frederick (Dallas)
DE Cliff Avril (Seattle)
2-star (6)

LB Khalil Mack (Oakland)
WR T.Y. Hilton (Indianapolis)
CB Aqib Talib (Denver)
P Pat McAfee (Indianapolis)
LB Bobby Wagner (Seattle)
OL T.J. Lang (Green Bay)
Not rated (13)
TE Delanie Walker (Tennessee)
CB Chris Harris (Denver)
WR Antonio Brown (Pittsburgh)
OL Donald Penn (Oakland)
QB Tom Brady (New England)
QB Ben Roethlisberger (Pittsburgh)
FB Kyle Juszczyk (Baltimore)
LB Lorenzo Alexander (Buffalo)
RS Matthew Slater (New England)
RB David Johnson (Arizona)
FB Mike Tolbert (Carolina)
DE Michael Bennett (Seattle)
LB Thomas Davis (Carolina)
So when you really think about it, 35 of the 80 players named to the Pro Bowl (43.8 percent) were rated as either 5-star or 4-star players coming out of high school per the 247Sports Composite, which is an incredibly high hit percentage considering the aforementioned limited number of players that receive such distinctions. Also impressive is that 19 players were rated as 2-star prospects or not rated at all, meaning nearly one-quarter of the players at the top of the league in 2016 brushed off the lack of belief in them by talent evaluators and grinded all the way to NFL greatness."

I can link more articles that support the point but this one was the first and actually downplays the importance of 5 stars in the NFL.