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Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:17 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:17 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
like 'Restore the Roar', I've lived in the land of sugar plum football crazys long enough to know what we were getting into. There is something special about the brand of crazy that the SEC inspires. Like the Matrix, it infuses every aspect of the daily existence of being in the SEC. You can see it in this very thread, the op started by a UGA fan and directed toward Aggie/Mizzou fans, and yet somehow an LSU and sCar fan have convinced themselves, "it's all about them".... 
I think in many ways it's been a 'perfect storm' for Mizzou, we needed something to shake up our program and this has been just what the doctor ordered. It's been a fantastic couple of years already and we're just getting started. I'm glad the powers in charge had the sense to see Mizzou as a good fit for the SEC, the "perfect storm" analogy also applies to the landscape of college conference football, it hasn't even debutted and we can already see that the SEC Network is going to shake up the entire world.
Thanks for the kind words about our participation, as our (then) Aggie Chancellor said, this is a 100 year decision that will far outlive what we here today can imagine. So yea, my opinion of the SEC has changed, w/ Aggie and us, it's even better!
I think in many ways it's been a 'perfect storm' for Mizzou, we needed something to shake up our program and this has been just what the doctor ordered. It's been a fantastic couple of years already and we're just getting started. I'm glad the powers in charge had the sense to see Mizzou as a good fit for the SEC, the "perfect storm" analogy also applies to the landscape of college conference football, it hasn't even debutted and we can already see that the SEC Network is going to shake up the entire world.
Thanks for the kind words about our participation, as our (then) Aggie Chancellor said, this is a 100 year decision that will far outlive what we here today can imagine. So yea, my opinion of the SEC has changed, w/ Aggie and us, it's even better!
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:34 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
My opinion of the SEC was positive before our move and remains so two years later.
I agree with the Mizzou poster who said Mizzou could fit in Big 12, Big 10 or SEC. I happen to believe the SEC home is the best fit for Mizzou. Regardless, of the ranters, who wish to ignore the ties Missouri has to the South, they exist.
As far as the ridiculous soft drink argument goes...
I can understand using "Coke" for any cola drink, but pretty lame if one wants a root beer, orange soda or lemon-lime drink.
I agree with the Mizzou poster who said Mizzou could fit in Big 12, Big 10 or SEC. I happen to believe the SEC home is the best fit for Mizzou. Regardless, of the ranters, who wish to ignore the ties Missouri has to the South, they exist.
As far as the ridiculous soft drink argument goes...
I can understand using "Coke" for any cola drink, but pretty lame if one wants a root beer, orange soda or lemon-lime drink.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:21 pm to Bogie00
Yea some really amusing stuff in this thread, after all St Louis, known as the birthplace of blues, has nothing in common with a place like New Orleans. Two states who's borders are separated by only one, smallish state, might as well be different universes.
Like I said, love the special brand of crazy you get here in the SEC!
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:47 pm to scrooster
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Y'all mizzourites sho do have y'all a subconsious obsession with Gamecock fans
That is the greatest person to ever put on a "Cock" jersey. And he played for a Yankee school (Minnesota)
Posted on 7/25/14 at 4:25 pm to ctiger69
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Because of Missouri's location we are similar to the Big 12, B1G, and SEC equally.
Dumbest post of all time.
Yankees, you are not similar to the SEC at all.
You're the dumbass. If you understood the cultural make-up of Missouri you'ld know he was completely correct.
Western Missouri (Kansas City) is hardcore XII country.
Eastern and Northern Missouri are cut from the same cloth as the B1G.
Southern Missouri is a very good cultural fit with the SEC.
So is all of Louisiana of the same mind, tastes, and culture? I don't believe that for a second.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 4:50 pm to Jagd Tiger
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I think in many ways it's been a 'perfect storm' for Mizzou, we needed something to shake up our program and this has been just what the doctor ordered. It's been a fantastic couple of years already and we're just getting started. I'm glad the powers in charge had the sense to see Mizzou as a good fit for the SEC, the "perfect storm" analogy also applies to the landscape of college conference football, it hasn't even debutted and we can already see that the SEC Network is going to shake up the entire world.
I was thinking the very same thing on my way to work this morning.
Missouri in the SEC - with the power of the ESPN-SEC Network behind it - gives us a chance to establish a legitimate national profile for the first time since Dan Devine. That would have never happened in a million years in XII.
And I agree wholeheartedly with with your thoughts on the SEC Network.
It will be second only to the NFL Network among league specific channels.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:20 pm to MrPoppersPuffins
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Also, it's fricking called soda! Not coke! Coke is a type of soda! You don't say to someone, "that's a nice Ford you have" if they drive a fricking Chevy! IDIOTS!
It's not soda, it's pop
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:00 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
I love St. Louis. It's a great city filled with great people and dumbest drivers. However, it's not even remotely similar to New Orleans besides the river that they share.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:07 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Yea some really amusing stuff in this thread, after all St Louis, known as the birthplace of blues, has nothing in common with a place like New Orleans. Two states who's borders are separated by only one, smallish state, might as well be different universes.
New Orleans is a completely unique city. Even it's suburbs 20 miles away share nothing in common with it. The Venetian Isles which are in the same parish (county) are completely different. Baton Rouge might as well be another country. So yes, St. Louis is not comparable.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:11 pm to Mizz-SEC
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So is all of Louisiana of the same mind, tastes, and culture? I don't believe that for a second
Louisiana has two distinct regions, north (protestant rednecks) and south (catholic Cajuns and Créole). The south has several different cultures with the rednecks of the Florida parishes (like north Louisiana), the Cajuns (south west and south central), the river rats that line the parishes between br and nola, and the Créole of new Orleans.
No state in the U.S. is more culturally diverse than the city of New Orleans, let alone the entire state. Even the Cajuns are divided between Prairie Cajuns who were mostly ranchers and bayou Cajuns who were cane and rice farmers, trappers, and fisherman
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:07 pm to kingbob
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were mostly ranchers and bayou Cajuns who were cane and rice farmers, trappers, and fisherman
yea we have no farmers, ranchers, hunters or fisherman in Mo...
yep, completely different...
no Catholics or protestant rednecks either...
(sorry man, you're just too easy) This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 7/26/14 at 2:42 am to scrooster
Well, w/o getting into it too much at this hour, I'll say that Bevo has a looooooong history of throwing their weight around to get what they want. It even stretches back to the FIRST time they decided to cancel the series against us, in 1912.
See, from the beginning of the series in 1894 through 1908, we went 1-14-2 against UTx. Then in 1909, new coach Charley Moran (who, incidentally, had attended Tennessee) lead us to two wins over "Varsity" as the horns were known at the time. Then he beat them again the next year, for a three game streak. UTx finally won again in 1911, but it was considered an upset, and that didn't sit too kindly with them. They decided to stop playing A&M so long as Moran was the coach.
Initially, A&M declined to fire their winning coach, and UTx made good on their threat. The series was ended, and the game not played from 1912-1914. Unfortunately, A&M's athletic dept really depended on the $$ from the UTx game. Without it, we would have gone bankrupt. Furthermore, the creation of the SWC was being lead by UTx professor and AD Theo Bellmont, and there was one requirement for A&M to join: fire Charley Moran. So despite a 6-1-1 season in 1914, including a 63-9 win over LSU, Moran was asked to leave. He did so graciously, and the 875 member Corps of Cadets made him an honorary member of the Class of '13, gave him and his family a full dress parade as a farewell.
UTx-A&M resumed in 1915, and the Aggies joined the SWC. Class man that he was, he wrote all the players as they prepared for the game against UTx in '15, concluding with "If you still love me and think anything of me, then beat Texas." The Aggies complied, and in the first ever UTx/A&M game played in College Station, shutout UTx 13-0. They would later brand the UTx mascot with the score from that game, giving rise to the mascot's name "Bevo".
That's for starters.
See, from the beginning of the series in 1894 through 1908, we went 1-14-2 against UTx. Then in 1909, new coach Charley Moran (who, incidentally, had attended Tennessee) lead us to two wins over "Varsity" as the horns were known at the time. Then he beat them again the next year, for a three game streak. UTx finally won again in 1911, but it was considered an upset, and that didn't sit too kindly with them. They decided to stop playing A&M so long as Moran was the coach.
Initially, A&M declined to fire their winning coach, and UTx made good on their threat. The series was ended, and the game not played from 1912-1914. Unfortunately, A&M's athletic dept really depended on the $$ from the UTx game. Without it, we would have gone bankrupt. Furthermore, the creation of the SWC was being lead by UTx professor and AD Theo Bellmont, and there was one requirement for A&M to join: fire Charley Moran. So despite a 6-1-1 season in 1914, including a 63-9 win over LSU, Moran was asked to leave. He did so graciously, and the 875 member Corps of Cadets made him an honorary member of the Class of '13, gave him and his family a full dress parade as a farewell.
UTx-A&M resumed in 1915, and the Aggies joined the SWC. Class man that he was, he wrote all the players as they prepared for the game against UTx in '15, concluding with "If you still love me and think anything of me, then beat Texas." The Aggies complied, and in the first ever UTx/A&M game played in College Station, shutout UTx 13-0. They would later brand the UTx mascot with the score from that game, giving rise to the mascot's name "Bevo".
That's for starters.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:49 am to Mirthomatic
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Well, w/o getting into it too much at this hour, I'll say that Bevo has a looooooong history of throwing their weight around to get what they want. It even stretches back to the FIRST time they decided to cancel the series against us, in 1912.
See, from the beginning of the series in 1894 through 1908, we went 1-14-2 against UTx. Then in 1909, new coach Charley Moran (who, incidentally, had attended Tennessee) lead us to two wins over "Varsity" as the horns were known at the time. Then he beat them again the next year, for a three game streak. UTx finally won again in 1911, but it was considered an upset, and that didn't sit too kindly with them. They decided to stop playing A&M so long as Moran was the coach.
Initially, A&M declined to fire their winning coach, and UTx made good on their threat. The series was ended, and the game not played from 1912-1914. Unfortunately, A&M's athletic dept really depended on the $$ from the UTx game. Without it, we would have gone bankrupt. Furthermore, the creation of the SWC was being lead by UTx professor and AD Theo Bellmont, and there was one requirement for A&M to join: fire Charley Moran. So despite a 6-1-1 season in 1914, including a 63-9 win over LSU, Moran was asked to leave. He did so graciously, and the 875 member Corps of Cadets made him an honorary member of the Class of '13, gave him and his family a full dress parade as a farewell.
UTx-A&M resumed in 1915, and the Aggies joined the SWC. Class man that he was, he wrote all the players as they prepared for the game against UTx in '15, concluding with "If you still love me and think anything of me, then beat Texas." The Aggies complied, and in the first ever UTx/A&M game played in College Station, shutout UTx 13-0. They would later brand the UTx mascot with the score from that game, giving rise to the mascot's name "Bevo".
That's for starters.
Great story. It's amazing how the little the Whorns have changed, too.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 2:31 pm to Wtodd
To answer the original poster, "they were who we thought they were," and that's in a very good way. There is something even about most of the "hatred" in the SEC that I enjoy. There is a love of the game, its history and pageantry that is special in the SEC.
The Big 12 when it started was on par with the SEC of that time. Later, cracks started to show and they were reflected in the weaker teams of the conference who fell further and further behind due to unequal sharing of resources. OU, UT, and NU didn't see the problems with that then. NU figured finally figured it out too late. Mizzou was a loyal member and tried to do what it could to help less affluent members and the conference as a whole, but our voice fell on deaf ears. At the end, the decision was easy. Texas' and OU's hubris drove the conference into the ground and they didn't care until it was almost too late (it probably is too late).
A little history: The Big 8 was a storied conference with a lot of tradition and it was successful. IMO, Texas all but destroyed the SWC by themselves, and nearly did the same to the Big 12. That school brings a singular focus that never thinks of the "we," only the "I," and they truly believe they are the straw that stirs the drink and therefore deserve preferential treatment. Big 8 leadership made a huge mistake and gave the 4 new schools veto power over ANY new legislation after they changed the conference by-laws to suit themselves, eradicating all previous Big 8 records and history of operations.
I am thrilled to be in a conference that gives the same respect to the smallest and least affluent schools. SEC leadership gets it: The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. A rising tide lifts all boats (no pun intended).
I personally believe we would have been much less happy in the Big 10 had we immediately accepted their offer of junior membership, and so far, the SEC has been nothing but a joy and is making Mizzou programs better with its membership in the conference.
Great football is great football. Depth is crucial in the SEC, because any school can beat you if you aren't at your best.
The Missouri fans I talk to are proud to be in the SEC and love being a part of the best conference in the country. We made the right decision for the right reasons and are proud to call y'all brothers, even if some still consider us the red-headed stepchild.
The Big 12 when it started was on par with the SEC of that time. Later, cracks started to show and they were reflected in the weaker teams of the conference who fell further and further behind due to unequal sharing of resources. OU, UT, and NU didn't see the problems with that then. NU figured finally figured it out too late. Mizzou was a loyal member and tried to do what it could to help less affluent members and the conference as a whole, but our voice fell on deaf ears. At the end, the decision was easy. Texas' and OU's hubris drove the conference into the ground and they didn't care until it was almost too late (it probably is too late).
A little history: The Big 8 was a storied conference with a lot of tradition and it was successful. IMO, Texas all but destroyed the SWC by themselves, and nearly did the same to the Big 12. That school brings a singular focus that never thinks of the "we," only the "I," and they truly believe they are the straw that stirs the drink and therefore deserve preferential treatment. Big 8 leadership made a huge mistake and gave the 4 new schools veto power over ANY new legislation after they changed the conference by-laws to suit themselves, eradicating all previous Big 8 records and history of operations.
I am thrilled to be in a conference that gives the same respect to the smallest and least affluent schools. SEC leadership gets it: The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. A rising tide lifts all boats (no pun intended).
I personally believe we would have been much less happy in the Big 10 had we immediately accepted their offer of junior membership, and so far, the SEC has been nothing but a joy and is making Mizzou programs better with its membership in the conference.
Great football is great football. Depth is crucial in the SEC, because any school can beat you if you aren't at your best.
The Missouri fans I talk to are proud to be in the SEC and love being a part of the best conference in the country. We made the right decision for the right reasons and are proud to call y'all brothers, even if some still consider us the red-headed stepchild.
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