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re: A lot of the 1 loss teams in the top 10
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:16 pm to Socratics
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:16 pm to Socratics
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Michigan state should have a single loss to Michigan. That Nebraska ending was bullshite.
They should be undefeated. What happened in the Ann Arbor game was a miracle play, but it was still a legit play. The Nebraska game was theft.
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Oklahoma is a lock
Iowa/MSU is a lock
Clemson wins - lock
Alabama wins - lock
UNC wins - will be 4/5
Stanford wins - will be 4/5/6
UF wins - out
tOSU - out
fsu - out
nd - out
Basically - if UNC upsets it depends on Stanford , then the debate happens.
If somehow chaos happens, and both UNC, UF, & Stanford win, Stanford & UNC both get in. Gators no shot.
If UNC, UF, & USC win, UNC in , UF out, but I have no idea what happens then, Bama & tOSU fans will go crazy over the spot.
the committee has been trying to explain, no one is listening, that the conf champs are the 1st and foremost important thing. Period. A non champ would need to be clearly better not just eye test but in what they have done. Meaning ...
11-1 tOSU, non champ
11-2 Bama, non-champ
10-2 ND
etc...
is not getting ion over 12-1 UNC ACC CHAMP.
Iowa/MSU is a lock
Clemson wins - lock
Alabama wins - lock
UNC wins - will be 4/5
Stanford wins - will be 4/5/6
UF wins - out
tOSU - out
fsu - out
nd - out
Basically - if UNC upsets it depends on Stanford , then the debate happens.
If somehow chaos happens, and both UNC, UF, & Stanford win, Stanford & UNC both get in. Gators no shot.
If UNC, UF, & USC win, UNC in , UF out, but I have no idea what happens then, Bama & tOSU fans will go crazy over the spot.
the committee has been trying to explain, no one is listening, that the conf champs are the 1st and foremost important thing. Period. A non champ would need to be clearly better not just eye test but in what they have done. Meaning ...
11-1 tOSU, non champ
11-2 Bama, non-champ
10-2 ND
etc...
is not getting ion over 12-1 UNC ACC CHAMP.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:55 pm to mrbroker
Bama has never lost a game. Come on, they always beat themselves
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:06 pm to mrbroker
Any chance Ok gets left out based on what happens this weekend? Happened to TCU last year. If so, that would mean OM plays OK in Sugar. Exciting but scary
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:03 pm to 3rddownonthe8
The four best teams is the most important thing. They've said this many times, it's in their "mission", in their criteria, and Jeff Long said it again last night.
Jeff long on conference championships, SOS, resume, judgment of the committee members, etc:
On conference championships compensating for weak resumes:
Jeff long on conference championships, SOS, resume, judgment of the committee members, etc:
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It's all of the above and it varies with the individuals in that room, so all of those things are factors.
On conference championships compensating for weak resumes:
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It's really impossible for me to say because we haven't seen how those teams played, how they played in those games, so there's so many variables.
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So they don't come in until the committee reaches basically a deadlock and then we add in the conference championships.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:05 pm to SEC1
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Any chance Ok gets left out based on what happens this weekend?
It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a very good one.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
He also said last night that a non conference champion would have to be unequivocally better than a conference champion.
and 11-1 tOSU non champ is not unequivocally better in resume than a 12-1 UNC ACC champ , who just beat the consensus #1 team.
in other words tOSU ain't getting in!
and 11-1 tOSU non champ is not unequivocally better in resume than a 12-1 UNC ACC champ , who just beat the consensus #1 team.
in other words tOSU ain't getting in!
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:27 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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He also said last night that a non conference champion would have to be unequivocally better than a conference champion.
and 11-1 tOSU non champ is not unequivocally better in resume than a 12-1 UNC ACC champ , who just beat the consensus #1 team.
in other words tOSU ain't getting in!
Ohio State isn't the only team in contention if chaos happens.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:29 pm to OMapologist
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The top 8 teams in the country should compete in a playoff for the national championship. AND you should be required to compete in a conference championship game to qualify for the playoff.
How would they do both?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:47 pm to mrbroker
Personally I think OSU has no chance if MSu wins out.
They played 2 "good" teams and went 1-1 (losing to the better team)
The OSu WR who posted Bama's Schedule needs to look in the mirror
Vtech 6-6
Hawaii 3-10
Northern Illinois 8-4
Western Michigan 7-5
Indiana 6-6
Maryland 3-9
Penn State 7-5
Rutgers 4-8
Minnesota 5-7
Illinois 5-7
Michigan State 11-1
Michigan 9-3
5 teams with winning records
They played 2 "good" teams and went 1-1 (losing to the better team)
The OSu WR who posted Bama's Schedule needs to look in the mirror
Vtech 6-6
Hawaii 3-10
Northern Illinois 8-4
Western Michigan 7-5
Indiana 6-6
Maryland 3-9
Penn State 7-5
Rutgers 4-8
Minnesota 5-7
Illinois 5-7
Michigan State 11-1
Michigan 9-3
5 teams with winning records
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:04 pm to SammyTiger
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SammyTiger
Yeah, it's too bad they didn't lose to Indiana or Maryland, then win out.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yeah, it's too bad they didn't lose to Indiana or Maryland, then win out.
are you saying Ole Miss is the same as Indiana or Maryland?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:34 pm to SammyTiger
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are you saying Ole Miss is the same as Indiana or Maryland?
Bama isn't the only team in the top four.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:10 pm to Tiguar
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M has the far better win but that was more of a fluke and an indictment on Alabama.
what the hell are you talking about, we were winning the entire game
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Bama isn't the only team in the top four.
taking shots at Oklahoma then.
Interesting.
They did beat TCU, Baylor and Oklahoma State. Thats 2 10 win teams ad 9 win team. add Tennessee and that is 4 currently ranked teams
And win their conference.
I like seeing who has better achievements over who has better failures.
OSU's resume includes a win over Michigan and what else?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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How can you not say that a 9-3 team isn't objectively better than a 5-7 team?
I'd bet that there are some 5-7 teams better than my 9-3 Dawgs.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:31 pm to mrbroker
I actually think OSU should replace Oklahoma. The loss to Texas is a terrible loss.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:48 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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is not getting ion over 12-1 UNC ACC CHAMP.
I'm not sure it's possible for UNC to get in, even with a win over Clemson. Stanford and Ohio State are set to replace Bama and Clemson long before UNC does. OU isn't playing, so they're in now, and the winner of the MSU/Iowa game is in. The playoff committee has absolutely no respect for any of UNC's metrics and have said/shown as much.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:28 pm to SammyTiger
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taking shots at Oklahoma then.
I didn't "take shots" at anyone. Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:33 am to Argonaut
I'm sorry. I should of said-- you're conference must have a championship game for the teams in that conference to qualify.
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