re: 6 most under rated sec qbs after 2000

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Coker, really? You mean the guy with the best coach in football, 4 straight #1 classes by his side, the #3 scoring D and #1 run D, a Heisman winning RB behind him, a very good OL and one of the league's better WRs....you're really going to compare what he did compared to murray? GTFO dude.

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Alright, bad example. But you have guys like Cam Newton and Aaron Rogers (I realize rogers isn't SEC) who people say can "will" their team to victory despite overwhelming odds. I just don't see that in a guy like Murray. Don't get me wrong, he's the SEC yard leader, he won a lot of games, and he was tough as nails. But he was also behind a very good line, had a rotation of elite backs, a highly touted defense...

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yeah, to fit into whatever narrative people want to make at the time. I went into detail and provided background on murray's record against ranked teams his first 2 seasons. If you only want to look at the W/L without actually looking at murray's direct impact on the game, that's on you just don't ignore it when it's actually relevant to the discussion

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Okay fine I was mistaken. He beat a bunch of ranked teams (although 3 of the teams in your post ended the season unranked). I guess my gripe is he never won anything of note. I fee like elite QBs find a way to do that. 5 yards from a championship doesn't do it for me.

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So brad johnson > dan marino, IYO. Got it.

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Nope. But you can't deny hardware has an effect on perception of success. He tried his best and put up some damn good numbers over a 4 year career. but he never led his team to anything more than a couple division titles.

(I realize to find UT's last 2 division titles you have to go back to 2004, this isn't a UT argument though)