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re: 5-star DE Williams Nwaneri live decision today

Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:48 pm to
Gees dude, you got the kid. Table the insecurity and enjoy the moment.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:50 pm to
Georgia doesn’t promise money to players to sign. After they sign our collectives do what every other school does. We help the players out with NIL money. And Georgia fans are very generous. They fully support our program and are willing to pay plenty to keep our players competitive with other NIL deals.
No one who has actually been to Misery - and I have more times than I care to remember - really believes that they beat out all these football blue bloods for this guy. It’s A&Ms #1 class all over again - on a much smaller scale
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19542 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:55 pm to
If players can start cashing checks while still in high school that’s a huge advantage. Get paid, and if they don’t like their decision after the first year they can transfer out. That’s a heck of a deal.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Georgia doesn’t promise money to players to sign




So you think these kids are turning down big NIL deals to go to UGA in hopes of cashing in later?

You can't be that naive. You just can't.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66729 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:59 pm to
eli is really excited for a player he’ll won’t coach.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25710 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:59 pm to
Recruiting budget has 0 to do with NIL.

I'm sure you know that.

UGA prioritizes NIL on retention.

We don't look to set the market on high school recruits. If we did that, we would run off our current players (see Mizzou running off Lovett with the Luther burden deal).

We do look to be a leader in retention. And we have stepped up for the few portal transfers that we have taken.

Congrats to Mizzou.
This is a good day for the tigers.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10944 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:00 pm to
Who said players are turning down 6 figures? They aren’t. Once they are signed they are able to accept money on NILs. And UGA has collectives with enough resources to satisfy them.
And wearing the red and black is very important to a lot of players. They do sign so they can say that they played at UGA. It’s a point of pride to be good enough to play there. And there is an excellent chance that if they work hard and accept the excellent coaching they will be receiving they will be playing in the NFL in a few years.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:03 pm to
another one who thinks UGA just "gets the top kids" when other schools are offering big paydays.

Just stop with this narrative. The top kids are going to schools for the biggest bag. You would be stupid not doing that. The kids damn sure would be.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16043 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:07 pm to
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Georgia doesn’t promise money to players to sign.


That’s a lie
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:07 pm to
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And there is an excellent chance that if they work hard and accept the excellent coaching they will be receiving they will be playing in the NFL in a few years.



Iowa had two first round draft picks this year.........Iowa. It doesn't matter where you go. If you can play, they will find you.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10944 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:07 pm to
If kids know about “big bags” coming to them and sign because of it, someone is breaking the rules. There aren’t a lot of rules any more but paying a recruit to sign or telling him he will be getting a “big bag” is illegal. And you say a school would be stupid to not do that. Why am I not surprised? When has AU ever followed the rules
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:09 pm to
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If kids know about “big bags” coming to them and sign because of it, someone is breaking the rules. There aren’t a lot of rules any more but paying a recruit to sign or telling him he will be getting a “big bag” is illegal.


UGA is definitely above that.

Just stop.


ETA A great friend of mine played for Vince. Vince was as above board as they come. That kid did not go to UGA for free.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25710 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:13 pm to
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another one who thinks UGA just "gets the top kids" when other schools are offering big paydays.


Big is relative.

I said that we do not go out looking to set the market for high schoolers.
That is factually correct.

We also spend the vast majority of our NIL on retention. With the 2 time national championship roster, you can imagine that the NIL number is large. Again... NIL is a limited resource. We are either prioritizing existing players or prioritizing high schoolers.
If you can't comprehend the NIL strategy, that is a you problem.
We aren't the only ones with this approach. I've read that Bama has the same one.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:14 pm to
UGA pays top 3 money overall but they pay it more uniformly to the existing roster. UGA pays you to be on the roster…not to attend. No informed UGA fan is claiming we don’t pay like everybody else. You can’t have discrepancy from player to player when you recruit a lot of top players. And since there’s no salary cap imposed externally you have to do so internally to maintain team chemistry and unity. It’s the only way you can keep a roster of top shelf talent together and you’re going to lose some guys…AD Mitchell, Bear, Etc. But you’ll keep more than most. It’s not a more virtuous method or nefarious method. It’s the most pragmatic method for a school that recruits like UGA.

Mizzou did what they should do, go hard in the paint with a big offer on offense and defense…Nwaneri and Wingo. It was smart.

This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16043 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:15 pm to
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If kids know about “big bags” coming to them and sign because of it, someone is breaking the rules.


bullshite. A collective can let a prospective client know what they can offer. The client cannot sign paperwork contingent on signing with a particular school. And a potential client that’s over promised can sit out and seek release from a school (it happened at Florida last year).

So you are absolutely incorrect in believing that collectives cannnot reach out to prospective clients. The collective can not be owned or ran by a school. They can partner with but not be part of the school.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:18 pm to
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We also spend the vast majority of our NIL on retention. With the 2 time national championship roster, you can imagine that the NIL number is large. Again... NIL is a limited resource. We are either prioritizing existing players or prioritizing high schoolers.








........or both, because recruiting is the lifeblood of any program.


quote:

If you can't comprehend the NIL strategy, that is a you problem.



no, you just have your head stuck in the sand regarding how it works. You think UGA is above the fray for some reason........which is beyond me. Buying the best does not diminish what UGA has done.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25710 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:22 pm to
All I said is that we do not set the market on high school recruits.

We are willing to set the market for retention on Jalen Carter, Stetson Bennett, and Brock Bowers.

Your skull is too thick to comprehend what that actually means.

And your jealousy colors your imagination with an alternate reality.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52859 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:27 pm to
LSU is also focusing on player retention and giving deals to proven transfer players rather than getting in bidding wars for high school players.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:29 pm to
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All I said is that we do not set the market on high school recruits.



so these 5* kids come to UGA for scratch feed, when other schools are offering much more than that?

but.........

"my skull is too thick to comprehend"?


Again, you can't be this dense.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10944 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:29 pm to
Funny considering Vince graduated from AU and coached there. If he paid players - and I don’t believe for a minute he did - where do think he learned it? And for an AU fan to talk about any school paying players is ridiculous.
AU actually testified before Congress in an investigation into cheating in college sports. I remember testimony about payouts,freezers of meat and “loans” from your HCs bank. It’s been years but nothing has changed at AU. We all know how y’all got Cam Newton.
And you say you know a UGA player, it was common knowledge in a middle Georgia town that a AU player was riding around town in a truck he claimed AU had given him. The NCAA practically lives on your campus. It’s one scandal after another at AU and one disasterous coaching hire and ginormous pay out after another. Any school who would hire Hugh Freeze with all his baggage has NO room to criticize any school.
Maybe AU should concentrate on their issues instead of spouting nonsense about others. If they did they might be more competence with the Georgias of college football. Might even make the Belk Bowl once in a while
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