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re: 2nd Best RB in the SEC?

Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:45 am to
Posted by easy money
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:45 am to
Chubb ran between the tackles extremely well. I agree, that post was uninformed.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:48 am to
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This ^ is pathetic. You're fandom is blinding. How did LF do against Arky again?? I'll await your reply

Chubb went for 202 on the road in case you didn't know




LF vs Kentucky...15 carries for 40yds... 2.7 ypc

Chubb vs Kentucky... 13 carries for 170yds...13.1 ypc
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:49 am to
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Chubb is good but I don't think he is No.1 RB in SEC.

Fournette is No. 1 RB in SEC.

Good stats don't make you #1. Playing RB in the East is much easier then WEST. Only easy defense in the WEST was TEX AM.

Chubb's speed can only take him so far....... he will need to learn to run between tackles if he wants to succeed at the next level. Speed disappears in the NFL.

I like Fournette's size, speed and special teams skill set. He also has nice hands in the few passes QB ever completed. He is a complete package and will thrive both in College and NFL.


What did I just read? How did Fournette perform against the East division and how did Chubb perform against the West? Look at like opponents and you’ll realize this is the most retarded post. How did #7 do against Arkansas? What about Chubb? Or how did they do against Florida? Auburn? Or better yet, how did they do against that vaunted Kentucky team? I’ll make sure to revisit your answer later.
Posted by Texas_Boss
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:52 am to
With how he improved as the year went on have to say Fournette.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:56 am to
LF vs SECE(UF & UK)...42 for 180yds... 4.3 ypc...3tds

Chubb vs SECW(Aub & Ark)...49 for 346yds... 7.1 ypc...4tds

LF vs AU,ARK,UF & UK...57 for 231yds... 4.1 ypc...4tds

Chubb vs AU,ARK,UF & UK...83 for 672yds... 8.1 ypc...6tds
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:56 am to
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Good stats don't make you #1

Let's see how Chubb ranks in terms of RBs in 2014...
Yards - #2 1541 (Artis-Payne #1 by 61 more yards and 84 more carries)
YPC - #2 7.1 (Gurley #1 at 7.4 with 96 less carries)
TDs - #1 14
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Playing RB in the East is much easier then WEST. Only easy defense in the WEST was TEX AM

UGA and LSU played 4 common opponents in Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, and Arkansas. Chubb out performed Fournette in every game.
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he will need to learn to run between tackles if he wants to succeed at the next level

This doesn't even deserve a reply.
Posted by Glory, Glory
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Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:11 am to
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With how he improved as the year went on have to say Fournette.


Excellent insight

Running back A or Running B?

RB A:
8 att / 18 yards / 0 td
13 att / 92 yards / 1 td
10 att / 52 yards / 1 td
7 att / 38 yards / 0 td
18 att / 122 yards / 2 td
10 att / 42 yards / 0 td
27 att / 140 yards / 2 td
15 att / 40 yards / 0 td
23 att / 113 yards / 0 td
21 att / 79 yards / 0 td
5 att / 9 yards / 0 td
19 att / 146 yards / 1 td
11 att / 143 yards / 2 td

RB B:
4 att / 70 yards / 1 td
4 att / 34 yards / 0 td
4 att / 10 yards / 0 td
11 att / 32 yards / 0 td
8 att / 78 yards / 1 td
38 att / 143 yards / 1 td
30 att / 202 yards / 2 td
21 att / 156 yards / 1 td
13 att / 170 yards / 1 td
19 att / 144 yards / 2 td
9 att / 113 yards / 2 td
25 att / 129 yards / 1 td
33 att / 266 yards / 2 td

Running back B finished the season with at least 113 yards and a TD in every game. RB B also out rushes RB A in every game except 1 to finish the season. RB B picks up over 150 yards in the 2nd half against the #3 run defense with a backup QB playing his first real meaningful game. I agree RB B finished stronger. Facts and more facts
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:15 am to
Determining the best RB in the SEC is not based on stats against one team or the entire season. I based it on each particular team's offense.

LSU's offense was 95% run plays because are QB couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. All defenses knew that when playing LSU. Fournette was running between the tackles with 8 men in the box on a consistent basis. LSU also spread the carries out among 4 RBs over an entire game.

Chubb played in an offense that was much more balanced then LSU. There QB was definitely better then ours hands down. Chubbs was not a "between the tackle" RB. He used his speed to get to the outside. ]Having a QB who could complete a pass benefitted Chubb tremendously. Also, UGA being up early in games also gave Chubb excessive carries.

Fournette and Chubbs had very good Freshmen seasons. The only way to determine who is better is how they fare in there future years in college and NFL. I feel like Fournette future is much more promising then Chubb.

Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:51 am to
Drake will be used next year. Big numbers coming.
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:52 am to
There is a big difference for a RB to have a QB who can actually complete a pass.

Chubb had that with Mason (QBR 158, 20 Tds, 4 INTs).

LSU QB Jennings (QBR 115, Half TDS, Double the INTs) was very weak.

If Fournette had any type of QB his stats would look much different. His stats were primarily against run defenses to make Jennings pass. Running into that type of defense he still managed to average 5.1/yards oer carry.

I guess we will have to wait and see who the NFL scouts think the better RB is? My money is on Fournette.

Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:27 am to
Tigers scoring offense was limited this year with a very weak QB. Relied heavily of the RUN with very few pass attempts. LSU never jumped out early on teams and or we were beaten very early and moved away from the run effecting Fournette's stat line. The games that were competitive were low scoring which didn't require high scoring offense.

You can't compare stats against individual teams because each week is different. Teams improve or get worse as the year goes forward. Injuries and depth could effect later in the season. A lot of things could happen over the course of a season which can effect the play of all teams.

LSU plays a different style of Football then UGA. We focus on defense and a very conservative offensive play calling. This system effects Fournette's stats.

I don't believe Chubbs is the #1 RB in the SEC..... if you look at stats like your using i'd have to say the Auburn RB is the #1 RB (based on stats).

I think Fournette's future is overwhelmingly better prospect then any other RB in the SEC therefore he is the best RB in the league.

Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:27 am to
This thread isn't called "Who will be the best RB in the NFL from the SEC" or "who do you think has the most potential"

Also you think having a 4 RB rotation would be better for Fournette since he didn't have to tote the rock throughout the entire game. Fournette had around only 30 less carries than Chubb did all year. Chubb carried the rock for multiple games without Michel and Gurley. LSU fans act like defenses didn't gameplan against Chubb.
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:32 am to
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I think Fournette's future is overwhelmingly better prospect then any other RB in the SEC therefore he is the best RB in the league.


I guess that made Green-Beckham the best WR in the SEC two years ago? I mean people said he was the next Randy Moss. He has the potential so that has to make him the best WR, right?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:32 am to
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LSU fans act like defenses didn't gameplan against Chubb.




No, they were terrified of that potent Georgia passing game
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:39 am to
We can argue about this all year and never change our minds.

We all agree that both Fournette and Chubbs are very good RBs in the SEC and we both would take each on our prospective team.

No Tiger fan will say Chubb is better then Fournette and vise versa. We are beating a dead horse.

All that matters is winning games and National Championships! We got two Natty's from 2000 to present. How many UGA got?
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:41 am to
I thought we were talking RB in SEC not WRs in another conference?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:43 am to
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Fournette is far and away the best running back in the nation. Chubb was benefiting from Georgia having a passing game... Opens up more holes. Fournette was constantly running against 8 in the box all coming downhill bc Jennings sucks the fat one. Fournette is faster than Chubb, more athletic, bigger/stronger, and shiftier.



Jesus Christ
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:50 am to
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I consider Chubb ( id take him at LSU)


Well that's considerate of you.

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a very good college RB that relies on his speed to the outside to gain a majority of his yards.


How many Georgia games did you watch? I clearly wasn't many. One of Chubb's greatest assets is his vision. A lot of the highlights you'll see Chubb streaking down the sideline. Majority of the time that play started up the middle and he bounced it outside. So to say he can't run between the tackles is just kinda stupid.

quote:

I like all three RBs but I prefer a RB that I vision in the NFL. Chubb i just can't see.





Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:57 am to
Also let's look at what Louisville's #3 ranked rush defense did when Chubb went off for 178 yards in the last 21 minutes of the game.

Defenders in the Box when Chubb carried the ball
10 - 4 times 23.5% (scored a TD)
9 - 6 times 35.3%
8 - 5 times 29.4%
7 - 2 times 11.8%

So almost 59% of the time, Chubb faced 9 or more in the box. Quit trying to convince yourself that Fournette was the only one that faced defenders in the box.
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:03 am to
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All that matters is winning games and National Championships! We got two Natty's from 2000 to present. How many UGA got?


"Wahhh I can't win an argument so I'm going to make one that I can win."
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