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re: 2004 Alabama vs. Auburn Highlights

Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:55 pm to
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I think getting our shite pushed in by USC two years in a row the years prior is what REALLY did us in


Did you watch the 2002 game?
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Didn't Kirk claim if we beat what was like the 6th ranked UGA team at the time, he'd move us to 2nd?

Then we win in what was a dominating performance, and he backed out?


There was so much disgusting garbage from the media that season. They simply didn't want us in. Still can't forget that Bill Plaschke article.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86450 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 6:08 pm to
I was at that game (it was UGA's bye week) sitting with some auburn buddies. I believe the away section was under the national championship flags at BD, and I remember one of the flags was really low hanging and in my drunken state ripped off like a 12" portion of it. Memory is fleeting but I WANT to say it was '41, which would be the best one for it to be honestly
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52666 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 6:08 pm to
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Memory is fleeting but I WANT to say it was '41, which would be the best one for it to be honestly




a Freudian grab, if you will.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65009 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:01 pm to
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I'd love to know the ages of people posting in this thread. 2004 is the most hilarious example of revisionist history I've ever seen. It's truly amazing how easily the media is able to manipulate morons.


I was 17. I remember it very vividly. Of the three teams, Oklahoma actually had the toughest schedule (14th). Auburn's non-conference opponents were laughable. Playing the Citadel as well as the struggle in the first half against Alabama doomed ya'll.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:07 pm to
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I remember it very vividly


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Oklahoma actually had the toughest schedule


They played one, ONE, 1, uno, un team that finished the season ranked.

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Playing the Citadel


So your honest opinion is that had Bowling Green not backed out of our game to play Oklahoma we would have been chosen ahead of them to play for the title?

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the struggle in the first half against Alabama doomed ya'll.


Interesting. One bad half of the entire season would doom us but OU giving up 35 points in back to back weeks late in the season isn't an issue? Sounds right.



Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10565 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:07 pm to
You're just trying too hard. That's not a true statement. All evidence suggests it would have been a great game.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:17 pm to
The thing is, I get it. Somebody had to be left out and whoever it was was going to be screwed. It was the nightmare scenario made possible by the broken system that existed.

If people wanted to say they started 1 and 2 or that they thought they were the best teams then fine I can accept that.

The thing that pisses me off is the beyond retarded excuses they tried to drum up to promote their agenda. Every single one of the is so easily rebuffed by anyone with a brain but here we are 11 years later and the dumb dumbs keep spouting the same crap Kirk Herbstreit told them all those years ago.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24894 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:28 pm to
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I loved the 2004 iron bowl. Croyle is still picking grass out of his hair...


That's interesting because Croyle didn't even play in the 2004 Iron Bowl. Auburn was locked in a battle with the one and only Spencer Pennington that day.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10527 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:33 pm to
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I'd love to know the ages of people posting in this thread. 2004 is the most hilarious example of revisionist history I've ever seen. It's truly amazing how easily the media is able to manipulate morons.


48

Please help point out the revisionist history examples.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:37 pm to
Bama fans celebrated only losing by 10 or whatever for years afterwards. It was pretty interesting how excited they were not to get blown out even though they were at home and the game was over by the start of the 4th.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10565 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:41 pm to
I get it too, but that's why the system was flawed. They started 1&2, and finished so, but they both struggled against worse teams than AU did. It boiled down to what the media wanted. I mean the best they have is a bad half of ball against UA and a cupcake game? Empirical evidence suggests AU/USC would have been the game, considering USC played VT and was losing most of the game. People love to point at the final score (although it wasn't a significant difference), but they disregard Tubs and his tendancy to sit on a lead and let the D win the game.

It just bugs me that USC is made out to be this unbeatable team, especially if you go back and look at the outcomes of their games and/or watched them.
Posted by gstiger2233
Gulf Shores
Member since Dec 2014
346 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:25 pm to
I don't get why everyone thinks USC would have killed auburn. We might have lost the game but I guarantee it would if been a much better game than Oklahoma. Our d was legit and we had a powerful offense.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:34 pm to
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Please help point out the revisionist history examples.



USC was the greatest team ever. Nobody could match them. Auburn played the weakest schedule. Auburn struggled in the first half against alabama so that's why they didn't make it. USC won in 2003 so of course they would have won in 2004. Tuberville didn't blow teams out enough...

Look at USC's regular season, they won like 5 one possession games. Several against very bad teams. Going on performance during the season it probably should have been Auburn vs. Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:36 pm to
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I don't get why everyone thinks USC would have killed auburn.


Because people are stupid and that game against Big Game Bob is probably the only USC game 90% of those morons saw all season.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:20 am to
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USC was the greatest team ever. Nobody could match them. Auburn played the weakest schedule. Auburn struggled in the first half against alabama so that's why they didn't make it. USC won in 2003 so of course they would have won in 2004. Tuberville didn't blow teams out enough...



That's not revisionist history. Those are actual things that were said at the time, and some of it was BS. It being BS does not make it revisionist history today.

Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33324 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:48 am to
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Why not? In retrospect we now know that Auburn had more and better NFL talent than USC who was supposed to be tGOAT


Well they beat us in 2002 and in 2003 we lost 23-0 in Jordan-Hare

Voters were 1) tired of the match-up and 2) valued Oklahoma's brand. Oklahoma pitted against USC was a better story and would have drawn in more viewers.

Those are the facts Auburn put it together in 2004 but since we lost to USC 23-0 at home the year before we didn't get the benefit of the doubt. There was no intrigue in a rematch
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:52 am to
Fair enough except for the USC being the greatest team ever part. That was not being said until after they smashed Oklahoma.

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79143 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:53 am to
The weak schedule one is the worst. Oklahoma played a schedule almost devoid of ranked teams and somehow had a highly ranked schedule. Auburn beat what, 5-6 teams when those teams were ranked in the top 10, and blew out at least 2 of them.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79143 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:55 am to
It was the end of Auburn's run of being something of a regional power. It returned us to the national scene and now we're getting a lot more benefit of the doubt.

It sucks that 2004, which was such a solid team, got screwed, but it's still paying dividends.
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