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re: College Athletes should sit out their first year...

Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Mister Tee
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:33 pm to
That was a great post!
Posted by jso0003
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:34 pm to
Have a downvote OP.
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:34 pm to
Wel also wouldn't be able to put a basketball team on the court next year.
Posted by Mister Tee
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:40 pm to
Obviously many of you have never stepped foot in a college classroom.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:41 pm to
No.

Many athletes earn a degree, and before you say they never go to class, I know a lot of people that didn't play sports who did likewise and have a degree.

There are a lot of educated idiots walking among us every single day. So for some of the ones that aren't in college because they can catch a ball as you say, they are scary too.

Also, athletes make it possible for you to enjoy many amenities on campus by raising revenue, so be nice
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

That was a great post!



Thanks. I really do feel things can be fixed under this model. And of course, schools can tweak it but the main thing is that instead of just tutoring, coaches need to develop a plan like this for athletes. It helps - it really does. Students thrive under structure.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:43 pm to
What buttfrickery is this?
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:44 pm to
I was on partial scholarship in college for a sport, so I think I have a qualified opinion.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:48 pm to
There's a lotta new rules that go into effect in August '16 concerning initial eligibility...

Starting in '16 there is an academic redshirt rule that will go into effect for some recruits...

New NCAA rules....
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:48 pm to
No.
Posted by Mister Tee
On the Lake
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:55 pm to
That's good.

And don't get me wrong, I appreciate what college athletes do for our schools...but some of these guys just don't belong. And it shows every single day with arrests and such. And that's not being discriminatory.
Posted by nb200016
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:20 pm to
OP is stuck about 40 years in the past
Posted by Chaos_Actual
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:24 pm to
I agree with your sentiment, but it would never happen.
Posted by TexAgChill
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:29 pm to
Nice idea but impractical. Some players, not many; are ready to compete out of the high school. The others are already sitting out in the form of a redshirt. It's unnecessary legislation.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

That's good. And don't get me wrong, I appreciate what college athletes do for our schools...but some of these guys just don't belong. And it shows every single day with arrests and such. And that's not being discriminatory.

What about the student-athletes that get arrested that are seniors on the team?

Guys that have been part of the program and part of the student body long enough to know better, but still do the stupid shite college kids do everyday?

This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Nice idea but impractical.
Not the 70's anymore... Lawsuits outta the arse if the NCAA tried that. The academic redshirt thing coming up might stir up a hornets nest too, especially in CBB where the great players have to attend college one year to be eligible for the NBA draft. What if these guys are academic redshirts for a year??
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:30 pm to
In reality though, how would this actually benefit anyone? It doesn't benefit the university by having to pay someone for an entire year a scholarship and not see any results on the field of play and it would also not benefit the student ATHLETE by challenging him in the processes that help make him a better player. I understand the student part of the equation is very important but if you have a gift at anything such as music, art, athletics then you shouldn't be penalized for pursuing your talents. IMO student athletes are already penalized enough by not being able to accept money for their labor. They are currently a bond servant to the NCAA and their respected school in the same way a crop farmer was enslaved to their property owner until they could do enough work to pay off the fee and actually make money for themselves. The system is so flawed that an entire continent (Europe) has said to American athletes. Come play 1 year for us and get paid and then make your big splash.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:34 pm to
What in the actual frick?! Not just no, but hell no.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:35 pm to
If the freshmen have to sit the first year then up the scholarship limit back to where it was when the rule was in place. Bump it back up to 100 scholly limit.

Won't happen
Posted by throwingoranges
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:30 pm to
Though I like the idea, there could be several unintended consequences.

Players who make the grades will still probably only stick around for four total years at most and so many will get less development.

Players who make the grades but stick around would be on pace to graduate and still have a year of eligibility... this could lead to a pretty wild free-agency market for immediately-eligible transfers.

And in reality there already is a rule to deal with this in that the NFL will not draft guys until they are 3 years out of high school. Many of these problem guys should be jettisoned by that point. And there's no guarantee that they won't create as many problems while redshirting as while playing.

If you want to clean up the game, the coaches and institutions need to be held to a greater standard of accountability. Don't take the thief/rapist if he's already proven those problems at the college level.
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