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re: *** UPDATED (1:30PM 4/5) Avery Johnson to become UA Basketball Coach

Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:56 pm to
The guess is that Bama will have a coach by Friday. Outside of Baby P, I have no idea who they are looking at. I hate hiring the sons of successful coaches, they seldom seem to work out. Bowden, Shula, Etc.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:57 pm to
I don't think Baby P is a serious candidate for the job.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:03 pm to
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Outside of Baby P, I have no idea who they are looking at.


Archie Miller, Steve Prohm, beyond that your guess is as good as any.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:08 pm to
Miller is the guy you want but the problem is I don't think he's ready to leave Dayton. He's having too much success there with an easy recruiting path. White is another option. He's an up and comer and he would've been our man had Hart not said no to the buyout clause. He's ready to leave so you may have a shot there and he's growing into a very good coach.

Of course, there are several others but I believe in White. It would be a bigger coup than it looks on paper to land him. And who knows maybe Miller is ready for the right amount? But honestly you don't want Baby P. he's just got a name that makes folks think he's good.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:12 pm to
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And who knows maybe Miller is ready for the right amount?

Agree. Offer the guy $2.8-$3M. He's making like $1M at Dayton.

quote:

But honestly you don't want Baby P

agree again

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he's just got a name that makes folks think he's good.


disagree. these "folks" don't think he's good.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:13 pm to
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If he doesn't take the meeting with Bill Battle and get a number, he doesn't get to use that to get some more money from Wichita. I still think he stays in Wichita with his second kid in HS, but have to applaud y'all for going after him.
My high school kid would have very little say so in my career or the opportunity to more than double my salary. Teenagers are gone and out of the house in the blink of an eye, screw 'em they can learn to adjust.

Futhermore, get that young 15 yr old teenage girl on campus and take her on a tour of those sorority houses, and the campus life, etc.....I somehow doubt Witchita State can match it.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:19 pm to
Yeah really. When I was a teenager, we never discussed moving. I was simply informed.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:21 pm to
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If I were Battle, I'd keep Marshall on the line as a first option but it's time to heat up things with other options.



I agree. We made our pitch with top 5 money and he needs to decide. This does not have to be a situation with Bama begging and Marshall calling all the shots. When you are offering 4 million, we get to have some leverage as well. We don't have to land Marshall to be a winning basketball program. Go to Sean Miller with a 5 million offer and if he says no then start talking to Archie Miller with a 2.5 offer.

I know it sounds cliche, but if 4 million can't convince Marshall and his family to come to Bama, then maybe he is just not the right fit. We don't want a situation where we are contractually stuck with him, but his wife and kids wish they were back in Wichita. Less than 10 years ago Marshall left Winthrop for Charleston, had the press conference, then changed his mind and went back to Winthrop. He seems like someone who has a really difficult time making big decisions.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:27 pm to
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disagree. these "folks" don't think he's good.



Well I'd say that those who don't really follow basketball hardcore often see that name and make assumptions. Basketball nerds know better but I'm not so sure about the general audience.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:30 pm to
I would be beyond pissed if we hired Pitino. I would literally rather have Grant.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17037 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:41 pm to
Richard Pitino wouldn't get you anywhere higher up the ladder than you currently are. He's got a solid understanding of the game obviously, recruiting is what I'd be more concerned with. I agree with the above, Archie Miller is a candidate worth going after as well. Seems to have a lot of upside. More established than Ricky Jr.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17037 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Well I'd say that those who don't really follow basketball hardcore often see that name and make assumptions. Basketball nerds know better but I'm not so sure about the general audience. ?

Bingo
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:44 pm to
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UKWildcats


I agree with all above. Also, Ricky Jr. isnt worth a big contract yet. Maybe one day... but not right now.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:29 pm to
Wanted Archie or Dave Rose from the get go. Will take Marshall, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he said no and we got Archie.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:34 pm to
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Will take Marshall, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he said no and we got Archie.



Agree. Marshall is not the automatic hire that some think he is. He is the best available but still an unknown at the power 5 level especially with recruiting.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:34 pm to
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The guess is that Bama will have a coach by Friday. Outside of Baby P, I have no idea who they are looking at. I hate hiring the sons of successful coaches, they seldom seem to work out. Bowden, Shula, Etc.



No need to tell me of the perils. Kiffin and Dooley were hired back to back based on their names. And while Kiffin looks to be an ok to good OC he's sucked as an HC everywhere he's been. And I don't think I need to explain Dooley *shivers*.

Both were hired on their names and both were hired way too soon in their careers, imo, and bloody awful, especially Dooley but Kiffin failed everywhere too. Let the sons of coaches prove themselves and learn for a while before handing them the keys to a major program.

These guys get hired too soon with no record because of Daddy and it does both the school and them a disservice. They need time to grow and learn like any other coach.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:39 pm to
There's a reason Texas wasn't going after. Terrible personality.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:34 pm to
Pat Forde reporting that sources are telling him Gregg Marshall will visit Tuscaloosa with his family on Friday. LINK

That's really going out of his way to tell Alabama "don't bother". Funny that Forde of all people is reporting this.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48895 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:36 pm to
Hes a hack
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