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re: do you buy the "local pro team" hurts your college team arg?

Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Riverboat Raiders



But in all seriousness the Raiders and Rams will both be back in LA in the next 3 years.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:52 pm to
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The post dispatch always gave Mizzou a lot of coverage--Bryan Burwell in particular


not to rain on your dialog but Burwell was a relative newcomer to the P-D that knew practically nothing about the history of Mizzou and had a tendency to parrot the "racism" talking points he picked up from the inner city black coaches, I wouldn't give two barfs about anything Burwell ever had to say about the Tigers. Not to speak too ill of the dead, Burwell was at least a good "fluff piece" writer, if you put any stock in that "art". Otoh, Gordon, a MU grad at the P-D had at least a little working knowledge of what was going on, so now that they have hired Matter to be the Tigers beat writer they are at least running with a little fuel in the tank.

Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:54 pm to
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the Raiders and Rams will both be back in LA in


so the Raider are "going home" to LA, you say??
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46414 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:01 pm to
Most Falcons fans tend to be bigger UGA, Bama, or Auurn fans

As for baseball, the Braves obviously dwarf any of the college teams but that's not saying much.

Nobody cares about basketball beyond a casual "well, there's nothing else really going on between football and baseball season" in Georgia.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:07 pm to
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As for baseball, the Braves obviously dwarf any of the college teams but that's not saying much.


been to plenty of Bravo games,, tons of Gump plates in the parking lots...

Do you think the Braves reloc to Marietta will hurt turnout in Athens? (yea no, not even serious)


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Nobody cares about basketball beyond a casual "well, there's nothing else really going on between football and baseball season" in Georgia.



remember the Knightmare on Peachtree street? ( i do),,, Now that's a team w/ a goalie I could GET BEHIND...


This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Its about choices. Ohio State is more popular then these teams in general in Ohio. All these teams outside of Browns have attendance issues.

Its a pretty simple economic concept.



Correlation =/= causation though.

Is it Ohio State themselves that are keeping those pro teams from doing well or is it poor management of those teams, the shift among a lot of sports to in home viewing vs. stadium attendance, etc.?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:12 pm to
I think the opposite is true. Football fans love football and rooting for one team probably "spills over" into rooting for the other.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:13 pm to
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Its a pretty simple economic concept.



It isn't a zero sum game though. If I can afford to go to one football game, I can afford to go to two football games.

College games probably don't "displace" pro attendance.
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20240 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:15 pm to
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Nobody cares about basketball beyond a casual "well, there's nothing else really going on between football and baseball season" in Georgia.

I don't know a lot of diehard Hawks fans have come out of nowhere
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
3671 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:17 pm to
Yea I just don't buy that the Titans and Predators hurt the Vols. Tons and tons of UT fans I know are fans of multiple teams in leagues. All pro sport teams have done for the state of Tennessee is give us entertainment options and show that our economy can actually support multiple sport leagues,
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:18 pm to
Don't knock the bandwagon, bruh. Just think of all the t-shirt sales.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:19 pm to
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do you buy the "local pro team" hurts your college team arg?


Not in the south college sports are king down here. Up north and out west it is a different story though.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Correlation =/= causation though.

Is it Ohio State themselves that are keeping those pro teams from doing well or is it poor management of those teams, the shift among a lot of sports to in home viewing vs. stadium attendance, etc.?


There are many factors obviously but limited discretionary income creates choices and is big part of the equation.

Money and time.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:25 pm to
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If I can afford to go to one football game, I can afford to go to two football games.


Or to NO football games, and go to the opera instead, it's not a dichotomy either. Which is the only explanation for a coastal located team to fail, since the population numbers are clearly there to support them.

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College games probably don't "displace" pro attendance.


and vice versa, most likely if you can afford one you can afford both, and if you couldn't it doesn't mean you still aren't a fan.

Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:25 pm to
All of my friends from STL give zero fricks about the rams.
LA County alone has over 10 million people. It's asinine LA doesn't have an NFL team.

LA>>>>BillionX>>>>stl
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4040 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Its not about being "pried away" its about the casual fan choosing to spend their limited discretionary income.


Exactly.

It is cheaper and easier for a family from either metro area to attend a pro game over heading to CoMo.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:40 pm to
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All of my friends from STL give zero fricks about the rams.


not from STL and never lived there, but me too really, though it was kinda fun watching the Greatest Show on Earth win a SupaBowl, now when it came to Jim Hart to Mel Gray TD passes I never missed a single one,, not one! Btw I'm fairly certain that Bill Bidwell is Don Denkiengers butt-baby twin.

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It's asinine LA doesn't have an NFL team.


If the tickets will sell, then so be it, it is a business after all. Even if they show up late just in time for the 2nd quarter and nobody cares if the owner is a closet xenophobe, that just makes the event more swank, right? Fukking left coast hipsters, I hate the turds!


Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46414 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:45 pm to
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Do you think the Braves reloc to Marietta will hurt turnout in Athens? (yea no, not even serious)


Not at all. If anything, it makes it easier for the bros in Athens to crash at their parents houses in the north metro area after they get shithoused before the 3rd inning. The Braves relocating may actually end up inspiring more suburban baseball fans, thereby increasing fans of the Diamond Dawgs
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:50 pm to
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The Braves relocating may actually end up inspiring more suburban baseball fans, thereby increasing fans of the Diamond Dawgs


I'm assuming you've seen "the map".. if not:


https://www.neboagency.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Team-map1.jpg


another good map that shows Cardinals fans fit in the SEC as well or better than the B10..

This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:54 pm to
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There are many factors obviously but limited discretionary income creates choices and is big part of the equation.

Money and time.


I chimed in at the beginning of this thread about limited entertainment funds. Kilo, once again, we are on the same page. If a fan has a family to support, and has multiple choices in sports teams, of course it plays a role and is part of the equation. This is so common sense, it shouldn't even be debatable.

Now if you consider a fan just turning on the games he/she is a fan of and doesn't attend games, buys no merchandise anyways, that's a different story, and doesn't really hurt any of the teams. We are talking about the almighty dollar though and where it will be spent.
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