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re: Sounds like Rick Barnes is stepping down in Austin.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:24 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:24 pm to finestfirst79
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Texas is so delusional. What coach in their right mind would want that job, knowing that 16/17 to the tournament gets you fired?
What coach wouldn't want the Texas job?
Barnes was given 17 years. He made one Final Four.
I think a school with the resources of Texas isn't being irrational to expect a national title once every 2 decades.
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:37 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
Barnes in 17 years did more than any coach before him at Texas.
Texas has NEVER won a national title, so expecting one every two decades may probably be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Barnes at Texas...
Final Four: 1
Elite Eight: 3
Sweet Sixteens: 5
NCAA Tourneys: 16
Texas 40 years before Barnes
Final Fours: 0
Elite Eight: 0
Sweet Sixteens: 5
NCAA Tourneys: 16
Barnes was Texas Basketball. Forcing him out may be the dumbest thing that program has ever done.
What decent coach is going to want to be at a program with unrealistic expectations like Texas, knowing you're in the same conference as Kansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Baylor, and Iowa State?
Texas has NEVER won a national title, so expecting one every two decades may probably be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Barnes at Texas...
Final Four: 1
Elite Eight: 3
Sweet Sixteens: 5
NCAA Tourneys: 16
Texas 40 years before Barnes
Final Fours: 0
Elite Eight: 0
Sweet Sixteens: 5
NCAA Tourneys: 16
Barnes was Texas Basketball. Forcing him out may be the dumbest thing that program has ever done.
What decent coach is going to want to be at a program with unrealistic expectations like Texas, knowing you're in the same conference as Kansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Baylor, and Iowa State?
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:47 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Being a victim of his early success reminds me of Tubby Smith--didn't he win the national championship his first year at Kentucky, but everything was a bit downhill after that?
Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:30 am to rjokerlsu
I think when it is all said and done, UTx may regret letting him go.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:09 am to Gcockboi
Marshall is already at Texas
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:12 am to finestfirst79
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He has only made the NCAA tournament 16 of his 17 years, or a smidgen more than 94% of the time.
Hell that is looking pretty good from here
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:46 am to Old Hellen Yeller
There is meeting expectations
Overachieving
Underachieving
Barnes' did little with a lot of talent
Overachieving
Underachieving
Barnes' did little with a lot of talent
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:56 am to Hawgeye
So why was Nolan Richardson fired from Arkansas?
Richardson at Arkansas
NCAA Championships: 1
NCAA Championship Games: 2
Final Fours: 3
Elite Eights: 4
Sweet Sixteens: 6
NCAA Tourneys: 13
Arkansas 40 years before Richardson
NCAA Championships: 0
NCAA Championship Games: 0
Final Fours: 1
Elite Eights: 4
Sweet Sixteens: 4
NCAA Tourneys: 11
Richardson accomplished more in 17 years than his predecessors did in 40 years. He was Arkansas basketball. Forcing him out may be the dumbest thing Arkansas has ever done.
Richardson at Arkansas
NCAA Championships: 1
NCAA Championship Games: 2
Final Fours: 3
Elite Eights: 4
Sweet Sixteens: 6
NCAA Tourneys: 13
Arkansas 40 years before Richardson
NCAA Championships: 0
NCAA Championship Games: 0
Final Fours: 1
Elite Eights: 4
Sweet Sixteens: 4
NCAA Tourneys: 11
Richardson accomplished more in 17 years than his predecessors did in 40 years. He was Arkansas basketball. Forcing him out may be the dumbest thing Arkansas has ever done.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:50 pm to Bench McElroy
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So why was Nolan Richardson fired from Arkansas?
butting heads with a meddling frank broyles.
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Richardson accomplished more in 17 years than his predecessors did in 40 years. He was Arkansas basketball. Forcing him out may be the dumbest thing Arkansas has ever done.
not going to get a lot of disagreement.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:02 pm to Bench McElroy
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So why was Nolan Richardson fired from Arkansas?
"if they go ahead and pay me my money, they can take my job tomorrow.”
Posted on 3/28/15 at 1:21 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
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Barnes was given 17 years. He made one Final Four.
I can see Texas parting ways but I wonder if they have a clear target already in view that would be a clear upgrade.
One can just as easily say Barnes overachieved in recruiting as that he underachieved in the tourney with some very talented teams.
Not sure if Texas ever pulled the type talent Barnes did before he arrived? There is a danger in thinking that level of talent is a given.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:25 pm to Tuscaloosa
You delusional. Texas is a way >>>>>>>>>>better job than Bama in basketball. It's not even close.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:29 pm to Bench McElroy
You should recheck your stats
Arkansas had 3 Final Fours prior to Richardson. 30 win seasons. A plethora of conference titles. A plethora of 20+ win seasons.
Undo your post and try again
Arkansas had 3 Final Fours prior to Richardson. 30 win seasons. A plethora of conference titles. A plethora of 20+ win seasons.
Undo your post and try again
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:45 pm to Hawgeye
My post is correct. 1941 and 1945 is past the 40 year mark. Arkansas had made one final four in the previous 40 years before Richardson was hired. Nolan accomplished more by himself than every Arkansas coach put together. He shouldn't have been fired after one bad season.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:49 pm to Bench McElroy
He wasn't fired after one bad season. It's also laughable you trying to compare Texas basketball to Arkansas.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 4:38 pm to Hawgeye
I have no idea why Barnes received the negative marks from fans.
All this talk of underachieving with the talent that he had...yet there was no precedent for that prior to his arrival.
Has Drew underachieved at Baylor?
Has Beilein underachieved at Michigan?
Matta at Ohio State?
There are ebbs and flows to the seasons of teams that aren't the bluebloods...hell, even some that aren't. It wasn't long ago that Duke was getting crushed by Nova in the Sweet 16, squeaking by Belmont, losing to VCU...or even Mercer.
It happens. Barnes has recruited talent and sort of achieved a Mack Brown-like resume where he raised the standard for success at UT.
It's laughable that SEC schools not named Kentucky or Florida would have issue with his success in Austin. I think a change of scenery would do the guy some good.
All this talk of underachieving with the talent that he had...yet there was no precedent for that prior to his arrival.
Has Drew underachieved at Baylor?
Has Beilein underachieved at Michigan?
Matta at Ohio State?
There are ebbs and flows to the seasons of teams that aren't the bluebloods...hell, even some that aren't. It wasn't long ago that Duke was getting crushed by Nova in the Sweet 16, squeaking by Belmont, losing to VCU...or even Mercer.
It happens. Barnes has recruited talent and sort of achieved a Mack Brown-like resume where he raised the standard for success at UT.
It's laughable that SEC schools not named Kentucky or Florida would have issue with his success in Austin. I think a change of scenery would do the guy some good.
Posted on 3/28/15 at 4:44 pm to TexasTiger08
I think you're spot on.
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