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re: Dave Hart is a very, very, very bad AD

Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
What do you mean by "Football is rolling"? What was your record last year?
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
Florida had a great matchup against us. They actually had elite talent last year and for one game after their bye week they played really well on D.

Their DL versus our OL was the only matchup that mattered and they owned the game.

Were there a few coaching mistakes? Sure, but you had to overcompensated due to that mismatch and that many freshman playing in such an emotionally charged environment.

It was one game in a season that's only goal was to get to a bowl and win it. We did that and we are poised to actually compete for titles this year which was as quickly as we could have ever dreamed when he was hired.
Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

We did that and we are poised to actually compete for titles this year which was as quickly as we could have ever dreamed when he was hired.


Also, what equation did you use for this?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:03 pm to
as one of the older posters here its is quite the head scratcher to see what the UT Ath Dept has turned into. While I have never been a UT fan, you couldn't help but respect what Coach Woodruff and Coach Dickey accomplished from the mid 60's until Dickey retired. Lots of success in the 'big sports' with championships and attendance and very successful "future revenue" sports. Now its a train wreck.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

and attendance a


The one thing I Disagree with you on is attendance, I think we are doing fine in that aspect, but I agree 100% with the rest
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:05 pm to
You're impressively persistent in your defense of mediocre Tennessee athletic department
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10561 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Too bad for you Butch isn't going to crash and burn and when TN is lifting the SEC championship trophy one of the next two seasons in Atlanta


Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Also, what equation did you use for this?


I used this equation:


Here is the link to ALL of ESPN's position rankings (QB, RB, WR/TE, OL, DL, LB, DB, ST).

2015 SEC pre-spring position rankings - SEC Blog - ESPN

I've taken all the rankings and I've assigned point rankings to them 14pts for 1st and 1pt for last and everything in between.

I've weighted them two different ways.

(QBx2, OL and DLx1.5 and ST 1.5 all other positions no weight)

(QBx1.5, OL and DLx2 and STx 1.5 all the other positions no weight)

(Then a ranking based on no weights)

Before we dive into this years results here is what last year's looked like.

Here would have been last years using the x2 QB and 1.5 OL/DL formula

2014
1. Alabama - 121
2. Auburn - 106.5
3. SC - 98.5
4. LSU - 95.5
5. Georgia - 93.5
6. Missouri - 92.5
7. Miss St - 89
8. Ole Miss - 88.5
9. Florida - 88
10. Texas A&M - 78.5
11. Tennessee - 46.5
12. Arkansas - 43
13. Kentucky - 31
14. Vandy - 29

That projected
WEST
1. Alabama (0)
2. Auburn (-2)
3. LSU (-2)
4. Miss St (+2)
5. Ole Miss (+2)
6. A&M (0)
7. Arkansas (0)

EAST
1. SC (-4)
2. UGA (0)
3. Missouri (+2)
4. Florida (+1)
5. TN (+1)
6. Kentucky (0)
7. Vandy (0)

(Not too bad)

So here are the FINAL results of the 2015 rankings.

DL/OLx2, QBx1.5, STx1.5
1. Georgia - 119
2. Tennessee - 111
3. LSU - 109
4. Alabama - 107
5. Auburn - 104.5
6. Arkansas - 85.5
7. Miss St - 84
7. Texas A&M - 84
9. Missouri - 81
10. Ole Miss - 77
11. Florida - 67.5
12. Cocks - 56
13. Kats - 36
14. Vandy - 33.5

QBx2, DL/OLx1.5, STx1.5
1. Tennessee - 109.5
2. Georgia - 108.5
3. LSU - 102
4. Auburn - 99
5. Alabama - 97.5
6. Miss St - 86
7. Missouri - 82.5
8. Texas A&M - 82
9. Arkansas - 81
10. Ole Miss - 69.5
11. Florida - 63.5
12. South Carolina - 50
13. Kentucky - 38.5
14. Vandy - 33

No Weighting
1. Georgia - 88
2. Tennessee - 83
3. LSU - 81
4. Alabama - 76
5. Auburn - 67
6. Arkansas - 62
7. Miss St - 60
8. Missouri - 59
8. Texas A&M - 59
10. Ole Miss - 54
11. Florida - 49
12. South Carolina - 42
13. Kentucky - 27
14. Vandy - 26

So that projects for 2015

West
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Auburn
4. Miss St
5. Arkansas
6. A&M
7. Ole Miss

East
1. Georgia
2. Tennessee
3. Missouri
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. Kentucky
7. Vandy
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5890 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

I used this equation:


Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:16 pm to
And there it is...the stupidest friggin thing I have read all day.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57350 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Well, at least he isnt Jeff Long. That dude has fricked up hiring at Arkansas for years. 


Oh yea??
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

when TN is lifting the SEC championship trophy one of the next two seasons in Atlanta in FB


You had a many martini lunch, didn't you?

Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1119 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:21 pm to
As far as the business side of UT Athletics I think he has done a great job. The dept was bleeding money with non coaching staff all over the place in terms of job descriptions and actual work they were doing. A lot of expenditures were being wasted in Knoxville on staff hangover and that idiotic idea of a men's/women's Athletic Departments. The coaching hires and w/l's I will let the Orange faithful determine but from a fiscal/business side of things I think Dave has done a solid job.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46362 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

When Butch crashes and burns

soon
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:23 pm to
You beating yourself up for asking that question and not expecting such concrete proof of the Vols rise?
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

when TN is lifting the SEC championship trophy one of the next two seasons in Atlanta


Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46362 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Well, at least he isnt Jeff Long. That dude has fricked up hiring at Arkansas for years

lol u dumb
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

You beating yourself up for asking that question and not expecting such concrete proof of the Vols rise?


Your made up non-scientific equation based upon a completely subjective position ranking from ESPN, does not equate to proof, concrete or otherwise.
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
1187 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Well, at least he isnt Jeff Long. That dude has fricked up hiring at Arkansas for years. 


Jeff Long has hired Mike Anderson, Bobby Petrino, and now Bret Bielema...... Which one of those hires was a bad hire?
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