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re: Official Spring Practice (We Talkin' Bout Practice?) Thread:

Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:36 am to
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:36 am to
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Gus has said numerous times "he is ready to take the next step" and "if he is consistent he will be on the field a lot"
You could be right but based off last year's Spring comments by coaches I would not make tat leap to TS starting. Last year we heard many positives from coaches that had fans thinking things that didn't happen. I would wait til Gus, Rhett, or Boom says we project x guy to start before thinking he will start in most cases.
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Maybe I'm wrong, I would love for Melvin Ray to be targeted more, but he might be blocking like he did all last year.

And that could be precisely way MR could start over TS. Gus in a run-play ation coach and he makes no bones about it. He wants WRs on the field that can block to spring big plays.
Posted by AUTigermitch1995
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:52 am to
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And that could be precisely way MR could start over TS. Gus in a run-play ation coach and he makes no bones about it. He wants WRs on the field that can block to spring big plays.


Absolutely, if we can get blocking on the perimeter it's going to be extremely hard to stop us. I meant clearly ahead of him in terms of actually getting targeted for passes thrown to him. Like I said maybe I'm wrong... only time will tell
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:19 am to
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JMO but we don't have the 2013 OL to do that. Nor is Pettway or Cox Prosh 2.0.
Also JMO, but I believe we have the potential to be better at both. Will it happen by Game 1? IDK, it will depend on how Golson develops at C.

Devaroe Lawrence is my favorite player currently. How can you not be pulling for him?
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:42 am to
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Joel A. Erickson @JoelAEricksonAU · 14h 14 hours ago Will Muschamp’s handling the inside linebackers as his position responsibility, Frost says
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Joel A. Erickson @JoelAEricksonAU · 14h 14 hours ago Chris Laye spending most of his time as a true tight end.
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Joel A. Erickson @JoelAEricksonAU · 14h 14 hours ago Auburn’s “Bucks” right now: Carl Lawson, Raashed Kennion, Justin Thornton
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Joel A. Erickson @JoelAEricksonAU · 15h 15 hours ago Malzahn wasn’t happy with the tempo of practice coming off of spring break. Challenged the team after practice.
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Before Auburn opened spring practice, the Tigers expected Alex Kozan to be limited all the way through A-Day as he returns from the back injury that cost him last season. Kozan appears to be ahead of schedule. During the early portion of Auburn's first practice after the Tigers returned from spring break, Kozan was in full pads and working with the first-team offensive line at left guard. "We're trying to slowly acclimate him," Auburn coach Gus Malzahn said. "He's not completely (full-contact), but he's dressed out most practices. Today we had him out there doing some things." Kozan has been pushing to get back into the lineup on a full-time basis, but the Tigers have been careful to make sure his recovery is complete. "It's just a matter of getting used to the speed of the game and everything that goes with it," Malzahn said.
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Defensive end Gimel President, who did not practice full-speed during the first two weeks of spring practice, was back at practice wearing full pads.
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Defensive Tim Irvin had a cast on his left hand and was wearing an orange jersey, signifying he could not have contact. Receiver Stanton Truitt was also wearing an orange jersey.
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James Crepea @JamesCrepea · 14h 14 hours ago Ricardo Louis on playing former UGA DB Josh Harvey-Clemons in the season opener vs UL: "I just hope he's ready."
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James Crepea @JamesCrepea · 15h 15 hours ago Malzahn: Saturday will be the first scrimmage of spring
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:49 am to
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JMO but we don't have the 2013 OL to do that.


From a push/strength standpoint, assuming that Kozan is at least a or better than 2013, our interior OL should drastically better. Kozan = '13 Kozan, Golson>Dismukes, BSmith >>>>>>>>>> Stephen hawking >>>>> Chad Slade , Avery Young >= '13 Avery Young

Really, with the exception of GRob to Coleman, every other position on OL in terms of athleticism/strength is vastly improved.


The real wildcard is how much of a dropoff in IQ from Dismukes to Golson. If Golson can hold his own, our OL should be better than 2013 if Coleman improves from 14
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:33 am to
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BSmith >>>>>>>>>> Stephen hawking >>>>> Chad Slade



Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:58 am to
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From a push/strength standpoint, assuming that Kozan is at least a or better than 2013, our interior OL should drastically better. Kozan = '13 Kozan, Golson>Dismukes, BSmith >>>>>>>>>> Stephen hawking >>>>> Chad Slade , Avery Young >= '13 Avery Young

Really, with the exception of GRob to Coleman, every other position on OL in terms of athleticism/strength is vastly improved.


The real wildcard is how much of a dropoff in IQ from Dismukes to Golson. If Golson can hold his own, our OL should be better than 2013 if Coleman improves from 14
There is a lot of blind sunshine pumping in that post. As of now nobody can reasonably assume Kozan will be back to 2013 form. Despite the public reports we get it's not a given AK will play again much less be the 2013 version.

Reese was arguably the greatest AU center of all time. It may happen but to expect the next man up to equal or better that is fool hardy, especially given that next man up never played center in his life before this past Fall. I think there will be some drop off there albeit not much.

Agree on Braden, AY, & Shon. Being more athletic & stronger ain't everything. Technique & football savy are important too.

The left side of the 2013 OL was especially unreally productive. Right now I don't see the 3some of Shon, AK or DD, & AG equalling the production of GR, AK, & RD.

I do agree w/ JR in that barring injury the unit should be very good by game 15, especially if Kozan The Barbarrian is really back & Golson can be really productive at center but to start the season I think they will be closer to a solid but not great OL overall.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by AubieG
Nawf GA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:26 am to
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BSmith >>>>>>>>>> Stephen hawking >>>>> Chad Slade


Alot of truth in this
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:35 am to
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Reese was arguably the greatest AU center of all time.


Joe Cope > Dismukes

Pugh> Dismukes
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:40 am to
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As of now nobody can reasonably assume Kozan will be back to 2013 form


Definitely hte biggest wildcard. I'm shocked he even has pads on considering his injury. That said, Kozan has never been an ultra athletic specimen but elite IQ OL. A summer of proper S&C would probably have him in the same ballpark as 2013 + his OL technique/skills/IQ probably improved if he put in work while injured


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Reese was arguably the greatest AU center of all time. It may happen but to expect the next man up to equal or better that is fool hardy



In modern football era I definitely agree. It is the EXACT reason I qualified the statement by narrowing to push/strength and indicated dropoff with Golson. Dismukes was not a Cam Erving at FSU who dominated by physical ability. He won with IQ, technique and coordinating the OL combined with above average athleticism. I would argue though that Golson's athleticism and strength is a clear step up from Dismukes. There will be a dropoff though but not from a point of attack/push


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Being more athletic & stronger ain't everything. Technique & football savy are important too.


Why I pointed out in my point that it was just about push. I imagine our pass blocking will be underwhelming at best compared to 2013

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Right now I don't see the 3some of Shon, AK or DD, & AG equalling the production of GR, AK, & RD.


I definitely see Golson, Smith and Young being in the same ballpark though by mid to late season. I think Avery Young will be an elite RT, Smith will be solid and Golson will be solid.

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but to start the season I think they will be closer to a solid but not great OL overall.


I agree with this x1000. Luckily, I don't see a defense that is an elite pass rushing unit until the second half of the season
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:55 am to
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Joe Cope
No clue who that is
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Pugh
Pugh was great but Dismukes was very good also and unlike Pugh will be drafted & has a better chance of having a pro career.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:17 pm to
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Pugh> Dismukes
Based on what?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:53 pm to
Cope is from Andalusia and was the starting center on the 2004 team... former walkon iirc.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:53 pm to
Myron Burton looks pretty impressive in the video Erickson posted today.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Cope is from Andalusia and was the starting center on the 2004 team


Cope wasn't even as good as Danny Lindsey who moved to OG from OC or Ben Nowland who started for 02 team and was All SEC
Posted by AubieG
Nawf GA
Member since Aug 2013
1179 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:23 pm to
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Cope is from Andalusia and was the starting center on the 2004 team


Jeremy Ingle was starting center in 04...pretty sure Cope came after
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:30 pm to
It's hard for me to really make a determination on something like that... Nowland, Pugh, dismukes were all very good... guys like Lindsey, cope, Bosley were good as well.

We've been fortunate to have such a solid run of centers.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:42 pm to
You're probably right... cope may have started in 05.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:50 pm to
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cope may have started in 05.
He did. It was his only year starting.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:53 pm to
Our OL this coming year will have a lot of talent and likely be one of our more athletic OLs, arguably more so than 2013. The question comes down to whether they have the IQ and cohesiveness to utilize that talent.


I'm also interested in HBack. Doubt it will be like Prosch 2.0 but can't be worse than last year
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