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re: Newest Realignment "Rumor"

Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:55 pm to



Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Kansas literally adds nothing.


Again, that is flat out wrong. Kansas adds just as much as Arkansas or Mississippi.

I'm not disputing that North Carolina and Virginia add more.

However, I just do not think that ESPN is going to start carving up the ACC when they pretty much own it.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:58 pm to
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To say it adds nothing is simply false.

It adds nothing.

Basketball doesn't matter in realignment. The Big East proved this. Kansas may be a major basketball program, but without football, they ain't worth a used condom at a shady Houston message parlor.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:01 pm to
That's a pretty serious lol article. They could have at least said Texas and OU as long as they are making stuff up.

My favorite part is the "triple the revenue in Texas" by adding the sips. Since the SECN is already carried by essentially everyone in the State and at the instate premium rate are they thus saying that by adding the sips they will just be able to triple the price? Sure they will.

While I don't think Mizzou would resist KU coming to the SEC I don't know that anyone else would want them. If they just want to add a basketball school they would add one from the ACC where there is at least some cultural ties.

I've said it 100 times and still believe it to be true. The priorities in any realignment are UVA/UNC and if not those 2 then 2 schools from those states. Everyone else is way down the list and really don't make sense to add because they can't add enough above and beyond value.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:06 pm to
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There may even be a doomsday scenario on the breakup of the Big 12 where this has been discussed. But this is fan fiction and it shouldn't be taken seriously - at all



Bingo.

I'm sure the SEC office even has a scenario plan to go after C-USA teams just in case something drastic happens within its conference. Its just collegiate athletic business. Any AD that doesn't have a list of candidates to replace their current head coaches is a bad AD. (Even if their coaches just won a championship)
Posted by finestfirst79
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:18 pm to
Will never happen. Aside from surefire downvotes by A&M, Arkansas, and Missouri there's the flipside: Texas will never accept coming to the SEC because they'd have no hope of ever running the show.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:18 pm to
That entire thing reads as one long troll.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:26 pm to
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if Texas was added, that could probably at least triple the revenue. There is a feeling Charlie Strong is going get Texas back to a powerhouse


Once I read this part, I imagined the rest as being written in crayon with grimy handprints and old, dried applesauce stains stuck on the page.

It was highly entertaining and helped me place the appropriate amount of gravitas on the rest of the post.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:56 pm to
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It adds nothing. Basketball doesn't matter in realignment. The Big East proved this. Kansas may be a major basketball program, but without football, they ain't worth a used condom at a shady Houston message parlor.




Any school that is added at this point is more about adding subscribers to the SECN than it is adding strong programs in football.

Adding Kansas would 100% force the SECN onto all basic cable packages in Kansas. That isnt adding nothing.



Posted by derSturm37
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:58 pm to
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Will never happen. Aside from surefire downvotes by A&M, Arkansas, and Missouri there's the flipside: Texas will never accept coming to the SEC because they'd have no hope of ever running the show.


Not to mention Baylor and Tech shitting bricks in the state house.

I'm comfortable enough thinking that this sip is tripping and/or that his [hypothetical] binness buddy is blowing smoke up his arse. North Carolina and Virginia [Tech] make all kinds of sense: Great markets (including Washington DC), cultural ties (the last two confederate states NOT in the SEC), and moving Missouri to the West where it belongs geographically.

If they let tu into the SEC then I'm just give up and join ISIS.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:16 pm to
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They love their realignment fan-fiction.


Yup. Us winning the realignment war of 2011 means a full decade plus of realignment fan fiction out of the Big 12.

I used to be addicted to the stuff. I would read that Shaggy thread or the WVU (the fact that they lead the charge says a lot) board religiously. But last year I finally quit caring as much, and part of the reason is that the speculation just gets wilder and wilder. The desperation for a better conference used to be veiled in analysis, but all of that ground got covered a while ago. Now they are like leftovers you don't want to eat.

Like this little "nugget" of info. First of all, the LAST thing ESPN wants is realignment. They said that over and over, all it means it everyone gets paid more out of their pocket. The SEC Network just made more money than they planned to make, I bet they want to see where that goes in the next 5 or so years before "pushing" for anything.

Secondly CBS has little say about realignment. It was obvious at first they didn't like that the SEC expanded and they didn't want to pay more for it. Maybe with Texas they sing a different tune, but that Tier 1 contract isn't the real money maker. The SEC Network is.

What is at the heart of all this though is a window into the soul of a casual Longhorn fan. The hardcores and alums want nothing to do with the SEC, but the casual fan (aka the kind that can't smell the BS in that) doesn't understand why the "best" Texas program didn't go to the best conference. No matter how much the AD says they are happy with the Big 12, the people buying nosebleed tickets and shirts want a better product for their dollar. Since at most Texas can only be half of a game equation, that means by default a better conference. I don't see those fans pushing Texas to come to the SEC, but I do think that dynamic means we Aggies need to be more accepting of T-Shirt fans as they come to us for the better product.

I am never scared of Texas. Not 1%. If they ever come to the SEC we can hold the "you had to follow us!" against them for a century. That alone will keep them from doing it.

I am scared to death of Oklahoma. My best Aggie friend tells me I need to mentally accept them to the SEC one day, but I just can't. We benefit so much from them being locked into the position they are in. I almost hope Oklahoma State makes the playoffs or something near the end of the GOR so it is politically harder to dump them.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:25 pm to
I know it's a pipe dream but I would rather have OSU in the SEC than OU. It would be funny to watch OU lose their shite in the same way Texas is.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:26 pm to
No one is talking about a fourth party in all of this:

Fox isn't just going to stand by while half of their college football inventory (Big 12) is destroyed.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
I don't see it happening. Texas couldn't handle not being the school that gets to run the show. All the SEC west teams would fight it because it would be a giant headache for everyone involved, not just us. It was rumored I think back in the early/mid 90's there were discussions regarding Texas joining the SEC with Arkansas and Texas said sure but only if we can do this, this, and this. SEC said no, so Texas told them to take a hike so they took South Carolina instead. Point I'm making..... people don't forget and I think they blew that chance when it was delivered to their doorstep.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
I don't see it happening. Texas couldn't handle not being the school that gets to run the show. All the SEC west teams would fight it because it would be a giant headache for everyone involved, not just us. It was rumored I think back in the early/mid 90's there were discussions regarding Texas joining the SEC with Arkansas and Texas said sure but only if we can do this, this, and this. SEC said no, so Texas told them to take a hike so they took South Carolina instead. Point I'm making..... people don't forget and I think they blew that chance when it was delivered to their doorstep.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Adding Kansas would 100% force the SECN onto all basic cable packages in Kansas. That isnt adding nothing.

10 Million in North Carolina >>> 3 Million people in Kansas. They add nothing of interest to the conference. They're worthless in the game of realignment.

Using your argument, even the state of North Dakota would be worth something. But let's face it, its not. SEC isn't going to settle for 3 million people and its billion rows of corn. Midwest is dying. They've only added 1 million people to their population since the late 1940s. They have also declined in population growth from 8.5% in 2000 to 6.1% in 2010.

I stand by my statement. Kansas is worthless.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:03 pm to
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10 Million in North Carolina >>> 3 Million people in Kansas. They add nothing of interest to the conference. They're worthless in the game of realignment.


Again, I am not arguing that Kansas is worth more than North Carolina so I don't know why you keep bringing it up like it means something.

One more time, ESPN is not going to destroy the ACC, which they essentially own the entirety of aside from some Raycom games, to add schools to the SEC. Its NOT going to happen so its pointless to bring up any ACC schools. (never mind that they also have a network planned for around 2016)

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I stand by my statement. Kansas is worthless.


Well then you are standing by being flat out wrong. Dunno why you feel the need to dig on this. Nobody is saying Kansas is better than a (major) school from NC or VA. They aren't. But to say they are worthless is just flat out wrong and is completely oblivious to the entire purpose of the SECN. You may as well be one of the people that bring up adding Clemson and Florida State when you say Kansas has zero worth.


and PS, comparing the impact of Big East schools which are all small private religious based to a large state school like Kansas is just silly.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:09 pm to
You sure are worked up about this.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:11 pm to
But seriously, it's just wheat and wind farms. They add nothing
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:11 pm to

I'm not a fan of Kansas and couldn't care less if they join or rot in the Big 12. However, to say they are worthless is beyond short sighted.

That's really all I want to say mayne.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 4:13 pm
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