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re: Auburn's Pro Day will be on SECN tomorrow.........
Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:23 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:23 pm to GenesChin
Carolina is too busy going after guys that nobody else wants (Michael Oher and Tedd Ginn Jr). Of course it's a pipe dream to think their front office does something good for the offense.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:53 pm to TTsTowel
Whitaker had 41 reps in the bench press. What in the actual frick.
Dude apparently skipped leg day every single day.
Dude apparently skipped leg day every single day.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:07 pm to TTsTowel
NFL Network is discussing Auburn's Pro Day.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:07 pm to GenesChin
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NFL related, Andre Johnson is looking to move teams. Pipe dream but would love to see him with Cammy Cam so he has a solid target that doesn't drop things
Undoable at his present salary.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:09 pm to TTsTowel
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Carolina is too busy going after guys that nobody else wants (Michael Oher and Tedd Ginn Jr).
If you watched Byron Bell and Brenton Bersin play last year in addition to understanding the salary cap ramifications the present GM is *still* under, you'd understand this.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:20 pm to beatbammer
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If you watched Byron Bell and Brenton Bersin play last year in addition to understanding the salary cap ramifications the present GM is *still* under, you'd understand this.
This. The Panthers are cap-strapped, which is why they're going after scrap-heap options to fit holes. They aren't bringing in Ted Ginn because they think he's the best option. They'd obviously have high interest in acquiring Andre Johnson otherwise.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:05 pm to TTsTowel
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NFL Network is discussing Auburn's Pro Day.
What did they say?
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:10 pm to MrAUTigers
quote:Mike Mayock was pretty high on Sammie Coates. He basically said he showed out well, especially his hands, that he doesn't see him getting passed the 2nd round, and that he might even go at the end of the 1st round.
What did they say?
Also talked about Nick Marshall starting out the NFL in a back-up role on defense, on special teams and with a wildcat/read-option role on offense every week. Says he will have to advance from there.
On Corey Grant, said scouts loved his speed. He thinks more will go back and watch the tape, and they question why he had such a limited number in carries during college. Likes him in the kick return game and in space.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:18 pm to beatbammer
quote:I'm fully aware of the cap situation they're in, but there are still methods to move money around. Guys like Jonathan Stewart ($8.3 million cap number) and Charles Johnson ($20 million cap number) are vastly overpaid. Neither guy is worth that much.
If you watched Byron Bell and Brenton Bersin play last year in addition to understanding the salary cap ramifications the present GM is *still* under, you'd understand this.
Running backs are easy to find late in rounds, and Jonathan Stewart struggles to stay healthy. Restructure his contract or put him on the market as trade bait, but don't release him. I don't care what you get in return for him in terms of a trade. He finished 2014 pretty strong, but Carolina could take a 5th or 6th round pick for him and turn it into a guy like Cam Artis-Payne, Mike Davis, Josh Robinson, Jeremy Langford, etc...
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:08 pm to TTsTowel
1. Restructuring a contact isn't as easy as pushing a magic button on Madden. Both sides have to feel like there's a benefit to a particular proposal. And usually the benefit comes through an extension of the current contract which adds more money to the contract through extra years yet at a lower rate than what they are making now. As well as Stewart played at the end of last season, what benefit do you think it would be to the Panthers to actually EXTEND a running back that has gone through injury after injury over the last few years, especially considering that they can cut him after next year and save themselves money? The thought that a "restructure" could occur between Stewart and the Panthers is Madden fantasy.
Now Charles Johnson? Maybe something could be worked out. It would definitely behoove the Panthers to have CJ around for two or three years at the end of his current contract (which expires after the 2016 season) and it would behoove Johnson to get that extension since he'll have reached the age of 30 at the end of the contract. I can see something happening their for cap flexibility, especially considering the need to re-sign Cam and Luke in the next few years.
But no way, no how EITHER side would be willing to restructure and extend the Stewart contract.
2. *IF* Johnson's contract was restructured, creating cap space to not only work on Cam and Luke's contract, but sign a valuable free agent, there would be a number of WRs, younger and more in their prime, that I'd prefer before Andre Johnson.
3. Is Michael Oher a good OT? Probably not. But he's a damn site better than The Matador that played the LT position last year and has already been told he won't be back with the team. I imagine the signing of a couple of mid-level OT on the Oher level in FA along with the drafting of at least one OT in the upcoming draft. Oher plus another mid-FA plus at least one drafted OT plus Remmers (the RT that played rather well at the end of the year last year) would be a damned sight better in 2015 than the crap we ran out their in 2014. And doable under the Panther's cap constraints.
4. If you watched Brenton "Goldilocks" Bersin return punts for the Panthers last year, you'd understand the great logic in signing Ted Ginn (or even Jacoby Jones) to a reasonable contract to at the very least not make the punt return team a Federal Disaster Area.
Now Charles Johnson? Maybe something could be worked out. It would definitely behoove the Panthers to have CJ around for two or three years at the end of his current contract (which expires after the 2016 season) and it would behoove Johnson to get that extension since he'll have reached the age of 30 at the end of the contract. I can see something happening their for cap flexibility, especially considering the need to re-sign Cam and Luke in the next few years.
But no way, no how EITHER side would be willing to restructure and extend the Stewart contract.
2. *IF* Johnson's contract was restructured, creating cap space to not only work on Cam and Luke's contract, but sign a valuable free agent, there would be a number of WRs, younger and more in their prime, that I'd prefer before Andre Johnson.
3. Is Michael Oher a good OT? Probably not. But he's a damn site better than The Matador that played the LT position last year and has already been told he won't be back with the team. I imagine the signing of a couple of mid-level OT on the Oher level in FA along with the drafting of at least one OT in the upcoming draft. Oher plus another mid-FA plus at least one drafted OT plus Remmers (the RT that played rather well at the end of the year last year) would be a damned sight better in 2015 than the crap we ran out their in 2014. And doable under the Panther's cap constraints.
4. If you watched Brenton "Goldilocks" Bersin return punts for the Panthers last year, you'd understand the great logic in signing Ted Ginn (or even Jacoby Jones) to a reasonable contract to at the very least not make the punt return team a Federal Disaster Area.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:36 pm to beatbammer
Ted Ginn did pretty well with Carolina late in the 2013 season as a receiver, not just as kick returner. Ginn will definitely be an upgrade over Goldilocks.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:49 pm to beatbammer
quote:I'm OK with them replacing Brenton Bersin. He sucks. My posts during Carolina Panthers game threads from 2014 indicate that I don't think he should be playing in the NFL. I would try Philly Brown out at punt returner, and then go from there. Jacoby Jones is a better receiver than Tedd Ginn Jr., IMO, but I'd rather Carolina not sign a guy specifically for the return if someone on the team can already do it.
4. If you watched Brenton "Goldilocks" Bersin return punts for the Panthers last year, you'd understand the great logic in signing Ted Ginn (or even Jacoby Jones) to a reasonable contract to at the very least not make the punt return team a Federal Disaster Area.
quote:He isn't. In fact, if RotoWorld is accurate, and I think they are, he might be one of the worst in the league and a lateral move from Byron Bell.
3. Is Michael Oher a good OT? Probably not.
quote:https://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/5182/michael-oher
Titans placed RT Michael Oher (toe) on injured reserve, ending his season.
He has arthritis in the toe and needs surgery. Oher missed the last two weeks due to his toe issue. He graded out negatively in both the run and pass game, finishing as a bottom-five tackle by Pro Football Focus. Oher has no guaranteed money beyond this year and will be a candidate for offseason release.
Sat, Dec 13, 2014 02:50:00 PM
quote:I agree, this needs to be done, period. The don't have one on roster that was even drafted.
drafting of at least one OT in the upcoming draft.
Carolina's front office needs to address offensive line, receiver and defensive secondary in the draft, IMO. Their front 7 is good enough to have average players in the back, so I would draft offensive line and wide receiver pretty high in the draft.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:00 pm to TTsTowel
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I would try Philly Brown out at punt returner
They did try Philly Brown. He had a propensity to fumble the ball when trying to catch it. After about the third time he did this, they stopped trying.
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He graded out negatively in both the run and pass game, finishing as a bottom-five tackle by Pro Football Focus.
Oher was, yes, the fifth worst in the league last year. Wanna know who was the worst by a long shot and it wasn't even close? Byron Bell. So, yeah, I'm willing to upgrade 5 spots at close to the same price and consider that an improvement at least. (Plus, Oher played on a bad toe for most of his year last year, whereas Byron Bell was healthy as a horse and nowhere near as useful.)
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I would draft offensive line and wide receiver pretty high in the draft.
I would be willing to bet Dave Gettleman won't be drafting for position. He's a best-player-available guy all the way. He'll take the 3rd best DE on his board over the 10th best OT on his board (even though both players are the highest remaining players at their positions) every time and twice on Sundays.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:01 pm to TTsTowel
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On Corey Grant, said scouts loved his speed. He thinks more will go back and watch the tape, and they question why he had such a limited number in carries during college.
Then they need to put on the tape of CAP.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:07 pm to MrAUTigers
I mean it isn't like the SEC POY then 1st team All SEC RBs were there for his two years or anything
Ricardo did really well on jet sweep and gives a receiving threat + CAP clearly was a superior workhorse. Not hard to see how Grant got sidelined in our offense
Ricardo did really well on jet sweep and gives a receiving threat + CAP clearly was a superior workhorse. Not hard to see how Grant got sidelined in our offense
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:13 pm to beatbammer
quote:I don't remember this. Not saying it didn't happen or anything, I just don't remember it.
They did try Philly Brown. He had a propensity to fumble the ball when trying to catch it. After about the third time he did this, they stopped trying.
quote:It's hard to be worse than Michael Oher has been the last couple of years. I'll give you his hurt toe, but Byron Bell missed time with a hurt knee and elbow. I'll say Michael Oher is worse, but either way, both are terrible and not the long term answer. I don't see much improvement with either and some more offensive tackles should be targeted in the draft.
Oher was, yes, the fifth worst in the league last year. Wanna know who was the worst by a long shot and it wasn't even close? Byron Bell. So, yeah, I'm willing to upgrade 5 spots at close to the same price and consider that an improvement at least. (Plus, Oher played on a bad toe for most of his year last year, whereas Byron Bell was healthy as a horse and nowhere near as useful.)
Looks like Cam Newton will be running for his life again.
quote:Carolina needs to draft for position, IMO. They terribly need help in certain positions.
I would be willing to bet Dave Gettleman won't be drafting for position. He's a best-player-available guy all the way. He'll take the 3rd best DE on his board over the 10th best OT on his board (even though both players are the highest remaining players at their positions) every time and twice on Sundays.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:14 pm to MrAUTigers
quote:Yepp, Cam Artis-Payne and Tre Mason.quote:Then they need to put on the tape of CAP.
On Corey Grant, said scouts loved his speed. He thinks more will go back and watch the tape, and they question why he had such a limited number in carries during college.
Both of which lead the SEC in rushing...
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:45 am to TTsTowel
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@JFowlerESPN: At Auburn’s pro day, #Browns reps had private one-on-one meetings with WR Sammie Coates and RB Cameron Artis-Payne
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