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re: "College football's top 24 jobs" according to ESPN and fellow coaches..
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:34 pm to Korin
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:34 pm to Korin
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Can't pull the troll card when you're one of the most Agsessed LSU posters on here.
Casty isn't Aggsessed, well he might be but he doesn't even crack the top 10 of the "most" list.
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:38 pm to DorchesterGamecock
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32. Ole Miss
34. (tie) Mississippi State
34. (tie) Missouri
Lol
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:43 pm to WRTC
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:44 pm to KCM0Tiger
I have nothing against aTm but they are not blue bloods of CFB. They were a middle of the pack team in the Big 12. They have truly benefited from joining the SEC but do not act like you always had a spot at the table. I could care less what resources you have and they have done little to propel you to the top of the CFB world.
I see aggies like the family that won the lottery. They show up to the country club thinking they belong and get mad because no one will associate with them.
I see aggies like the family that won the lottery. They show up to the country club thinking they belong and get mad because no one will associate with them.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:45 pm to TideWarrior
How much could you care less?
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:47 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
I can't lie, I love that man. His arrogance and alcoholism has given my program a hope it didn't have back when I graduated.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:57 pm to TideWarrior
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They have truly benefited from joining the SEC but do not act like you always had a spot at the table.
This list isn't how good a program is all-time. That kind of list would rank Nebraska and Notre Dame higher. We are not a Blue Blood, but things change and I would rather be where A&M is today than a Nebraska (who is a blue blood).
This list is how attractive your job is. Some of that is history, but some of that is what kind of "resources" are provided to that coach, not just salary but facilities and assistance money.
I appreciate your rant against our defense of our ranking, especially the lottery winner analogy. In that is buried the real truth of it- certain college football fans don't like our rise because we are upsetting the importance of history in the sport. Oregon is obviously the poster child for that, but we get a lot of the hate for taking a spot in the SEC we didn't earn.
I am glad to be the new money offending people. Thanks to the Catch 22 caste system in the sport, it is VERY hard for program to break through. It takes talent to win big games, and only the big programs get the top talent. So the only way to break in is either a HOF coach (aka the traditional method) or by making it so EVERYTHING else about your program but your history is attractive. We have work to do, but I am happy to be offending some blue bloods.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:06 pm to cardboardboxer
I'm not sure which thread's worse. This one or the LF vs Chubb one.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:30 pm to cardboardboxer
In the end it is what you do with those resources and can your team/staff utilize them to make the program a top tier program year in and year out. These resources have been around for a while but yet aTm seems to mismanage those resources. The potential is there.
In regards to the lottery I used the analogy because many of the aggie fans, especially on here, seem somewhat entitled by what they bring to the table. Teams considered storied are because they earned that place over time. Teams will cycle through with success and we will see teams like Miami, Oregon, etc. rotate to the top with the more traditional powers. But yet you compare yourself to those teams when aTm has yet been in that position. Joining the SEC did not elevate your program to a station of equality among the more storied programs.
In regards to the hate, if there really is that, it had nothing to do with expansion. Most SEC fans that were not happy about it felt aTm was a backup plan. Most boards when expansion was being talked about were hoping for Texas and Oklahoma, not aTm or Missouri. Most were disappointed because they felt like we took whoever we could to move to 14 teams and it added no value. It seems we may have jumped the gun on Mizzou since they have won the east the past 2 years, but the outlook so far for aTm does not bode well.
In regards to the lottery I used the analogy because many of the aggie fans, especially on here, seem somewhat entitled by what they bring to the table. Teams considered storied are because they earned that place over time. Teams will cycle through with success and we will see teams like Miami, Oregon, etc. rotate to the top with the more traditional powers. But yet you compare yourself to those teams when aTm has yet been in that position. Joining the SEC did not elevate your program to a station of equality among the more storied programs.
In regards to the hate, if there really is that, it had nothing to do with expansion. Most SEC fans that were not happy about it felt aTm was a backup plan. Most boards when expansion was being talked about were hoping for Texas and Oklahoma, not aTm or Missouri. Most were disappointed because they felt like we took whoever we could to move to 14 teams and it added no value. It seems we may have jumped the gun on Mizzou since they have won the east the past 2 years, but the outlook so far for aTm does not bode well.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:32 pm to TideWarrior
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:57 pm to DorchesterGamecock
Missouri is an infinitely better job than Mississippi State.
We're the only D1 program in the state.
We have two large urban metropolitan areas.
We're the only D1 program in the state.
We have two large urban metropolitan areas.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:31 pm to TideWarrior
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They have truly benefited from joining the SEC but do not act like you always had a spot at the table.
Where do you think A&M is in all time win percentage without looking?
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:34 pm to sleepy gnostic
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Missouri is an infinitely better job than Mississippi State.
We're the only D1 program in the state.
We have two large urban metropolitan areas.
You guys are about the same
NFL Talent by state
16. Mississippi 32
17. New York 28
18. Maryland 25
19. Missouri 24
College
Despite Mizzou being the only Div 1 football program in the state, the Big 10 and football traditional powers steal a lot of talent from your state. Believe or not, the State of Mississippi does a good job of keeping talent in state even if they are splitting it. You only have a slight money advantage over Mississippi state and your recruitment levels are even.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:40 pm to Projectpat
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Where do you think A&M is in all time win percentage without looking?
Random guess ??
Below the SEC Big 6
Above the SEC little 8
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:42 pm to Socratics
We're splitting talent and we have less than half the population of Missouri.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:10 pm to Projectpat
Who knows but the real question what is your win % against quality opponents. aTm was in the South West conference I believe until the early 90s.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:24 pm to Projectpat
So I looked up your program history.
Overall win %=.602 710-461-48
Bowl record=17-19 .472
claimed national titles 3 (last one 1939)
conference titles 18(17 in the South West and 1 in the Big 12 in 16 years)Best run in the SW was late 80's early 90's with Texas being the main threat in the conference.
aTm has a winning record against
Big 12 54.87%
C-USA 64.10%
MWC 100%
Sun Belt 90.48%
WAC 100%
VS. other conferences less than .500
Finished only once ranked #1 in 1939
Not sure what I am missing here.
Overall win %=.602 710-461-48
Bowl record=17-19 .472
claimed national titles 3 (last one 1939)
conference titles 18(17 in the South West and 1 in the Big 12 in 16 years)Best run in the SW was late 80's early 90's with Texas being the main threat in the conference.
aTm has a winning record against
Big 12 54.87%
C-USA 64.10%
MWC 100%
Sun Belt 90.48%
WAC 100%
VS. other conferences less than .500
Finished only once ranked #1 in 1939
Not sure what I am missing here.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:49 pm to TideWarrior
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In regards to the hate, if there really is that, it had nothing to do with expansion. Most SEC fans that were not happy about it felt aTm was a backup plan. Most boards when expansion was being talked about were hoping for Texas and Oklahoma, not aTm or Missouri. Most were disappointed because they felt like we took whoever we could to move to 14 teams and it added no value. It seems we may have jumped the gun on Mizzou since they have won the east the past 2 years, but the outlook so far for aTm does not bode well.
Fool please. Ain't like you were out there helping Alabama get a championship. You need to go sit down somewhere.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:29 pm to TideWarrior
You keep trying to make a blue blood or all time argument and are ignoring who is a "top job" today. This isn't about the past, it's about who has the best situation now and going forward.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:04 pm to Masterag
Oh yeah I am mad. Not sure about what but seems to make you feel better.
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