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re: I'm actually starting to think Anderson will be gone after this season.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:10 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:10 pm to mizzoukills
Kills is right on, We've got KA for at least another year or two. Chin up. Let's see what happens next year.
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Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:21 pm to Literalist
Honestly, these losses don't even bother me considering the situation. New coach, incredibly young team, rumors of Fuller working against coach filling the player's minds with negativity, etc.
My sports priority is as follows:
1) Mizzou Football
1a) Cardinal Baseball
Distant 2) All other sports including Mizzou basketball
My sports priority is as follows:
1) Mizzou Football
1a) Cardinal Baseball
Distant 2) All other sports including Mizzou basketball
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:32 pm to mizzoukills
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rumors of Fuller working against coach filling the player's minds with negativity
What are these rumors?
And I agree - he'll be here next year anyway, maybe longer. Depends on the new AD. I was very sceptical of this hire; I so wanted to be wrong in my initial thoughts.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 7:17 pm to KCM0Tiger
I'm edging closer and closer to the "fire him" side. It's one thing to have a terrible record, but it's another thing not to improve along the way and flat out quit in some games.
Compare Mizzou to TCU. TCU, although they have a bad record and are in last place in the Big 12, has competed hard and pulled a few upsets. They played KU reasonably close in Allen Fieldhouse today.
Mizzou? They got blitzed by a Vanderbilt team stacked with underclassmen.
Combined with the lack of improvement, the historically bad results, the lack of recruiting and the lack of interest in basketball, it might do less damage firing a head coach after one year than keeping him around for one or two more years.
And while Alden is out the door, the university could have an interim AD make the hire. When Roy Williams left KU for North Carolina in 2003, an interim AD hired Bill Self. I would not make the assumption KA gets another year simply because of Alden leaving and the time frame there.
Compare Mizzou to TCU. TCU, although they have a bad record and are in last place in the Big 12, has competed hard and pulled a few upsets. They played KU reasonably close in Allen Fieldhouse today.
Mizzou? They got blitzed by a Vanderbilt team stacked with underclassmen.
Combined with the lack of improvement, the historically bad results, the lack of recruiting and the lack of interest in basketball, it might do less damage firing a head coach after one year than keeping him around for one or two more years.
And while Alden is out the door, the university could have an interim AD make the hire. When Roy Williams left KU for North Carolina in 2003, an interim AD hired Bill Self. I would not make the assumption KA gets another year simply because of Alden leaving and the time frame there.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 7:32 pm to KCTigerFan212
You can't compare MIZZOU to TCU. TCU is lead by a pair of seniors. Played a terrible non-con, but went undefeated.
MIZZOU just doesn't have a proven scorer and the defense has just been bad. They also need some muscle as they go absolutely dominated on the glass, -20+.
MIZZOU just doesn't have a proven scorer and the defense has just been bad. They also need some muscle as they go absolutely dominated on the glass, -20+.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 7:34 pm to Mizzou4ever
If true why is Howland not our coach now? Would he really take it now?
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I agree with your whole post kilo. The prevailing wisdom though, is if we cut him loose after 1 season, it will be hard to find a good replacement. Coaching circles and all that (they talk amongst themselves).
Howland is still out there and bet he would take it with a reasonable explaination on why we needed a change.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 7:42 pm to wubilli
TCU is also just flat out better. As far as a weak non-con we struggled with the weak ones on our schedule-SEMO, UMKC, and Elon. I hate to fire a coach after a year but man I don't think this is going to turn out any better in year two. Especially if be have transfers.
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You can't compare MIZZOU to TCU. TCU is lead by a pair of seniors. Played a terrible non-con, but went undefeated.
MIZZOU just doesn't have a proven scorer and the defense has just been bad. They also need some muscle as they go absolutely dominated on the glass, -20+.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 7:53 pm to ZackAttackTiger
A team that really only has 1 freshman getting any kind of minutes should be better than one getting 50-60% of its production from freshmen.
WSU has several freshman, but their production is mostly juniors and seniors. After Cam left I expected about 10 wins max for this team.
I like the potential of the freshmen, but they weren't ready to carry the team this season.
WSU has several freshman, but their production is mostly juniors and seniors. After Cam left I expected about 10 wins max for this team.
I like the potential of the freshmen, but they weren't ready to carry the team this season.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 8:37 pm to wubilli
There is simply no excuse for the performance of the team this year.
You can say player this and assistant coach that. This team sucks and that is on KA. Period.
If they aren't significantly better next year, why does he get a third year? We aren't in a jobs business. We're not an employment agency for alumni. We are a playing basketball in a power 5 conference.
If they want someone to mentor young men, you can find someone to do it for $150,000 plus expenses. And do a better job of it than was done this year. That's not KA's primary job. He needs to frickin win a game.
You can say player this and assistant coach that. This team sucks and that is on KA. Period.
If they aren't significantly better next year, why does he get a third year? We aren't in a jobs business. We're not an employment agency for alumni. We are a playing basketball in a power 5 conference.
If they want someone to mentor young men, you can find someone to do it for $150,000 plus expenses. And do a better job of it than was done this year. That's not KA's primary job. He needs to frickin win a game.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 9:04 pm to the808bass
One of the real concerning thing this year is how bad we are defensively. We give up way to many open shots, for a team that focused so much on it before the season started.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 10:10 pm to the808bass
I was very much against his hire, but once he was hired, we were pretty much locked in for at least 3 years and probably 4. That's just Alden, who listened too much to certain old-guard alums at times.
Now that Alden's out, the new AD will give Anderson a year under his watch to study how he runs his program. If he doesn't like what he sees, there is very much a possibility that Anderson will get axed after year two.
Now that Alden's out, the new AD will give Anderson a year under his watch to study how he runs his program. If he doesn't like what he sees, there is very much a possibility that Anderson will get axed after year two.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 10:30 pm to MizzouJim
I am with you. He will get a second year if for no other reason the school does not want Alden hiring another basketball coach. If there is not huge improvement he will be gone after year two.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 10:50 pm to kilo
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When you take the emotion out in regards to Kim's ties to Mizzou....you cant start to realize it was a terrible hire.
I really wonder what everyone would think of KA if he was not a Mizzou alum. Take that factor out and what would everyone say of the job done to date.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 11:10 pm to reedus23
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I really wonder what everyone would think of KA if he was not a Mizzou alum. Take that factor out and what would everyone say of the job done to date.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 11:22 pm to the808bass
Yup, the excuses really don't fly. A rebuilding season? Sure. The worst team in school history? frick no. There is no legitimate excuse for this product. Our basketball team should NEVER be this bad. Ever.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:18 am to JesusQuintana
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Yup, the excuses really don't fly. A rebuilding season? Sure. The worst team in school history? frick no. There is no legitimate excuse for this product. Our basketball team should NEVER be this bad. Ever.
KA coaches next year and it's over, new AD will be looking for at least a .500 team and I don't think KA will make it happen, which in turn gives the new AD an easy out to can him.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:45 am to mizzoukills
Killz, your weiner is a Vienna sausage
Posted on 2/22/15 at 8:58 am to mizzoukills
I really don't know what to think at this point. I argued against this hire, but once it was made I felt like he needed the time to prove himself. Towards midseason it looked like the team was progressing. Then came the first UK game, and the suspensions, and things have gone downhill since then. I expect next season to be worse, because I fully expect several transfers, which means starting over again with a bunch of new kids to break in-which screams a repeat of this season to me. He'll get one more year, but unless there's major improvement next season, KA won't be here much longer than that.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:07 am to ZackAttackTiger
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If true why is Howland not our coach now? Would he really take it now?
Yes, Howland is still available. He was rumoured to be on the short list of candidates during our last coaching search. He has baggage from his UCLA days, so Alden didn't hire him because of his own past shitty hires that brought embarrassment to Mizzou.
I think he would still take the job now but have no real insight, just a hunch. We can bag on the job KA has done and rightfully so, but the real arse wipe to blame for the condition of the basketball program is Alden.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:08 am to tobythetiger
It could help Mizzou to have a few guys transfer. No player other than Clark & Sham have really had any kind of consistency this year. Trade 1-2 players for some with maybe a lower ceiling but a higher floor & Mizzou can probably get to .500.
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