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Pat Forde: Is Kentucky basketball comparable to Florida State football?

Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33922 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:21 pm
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The Minutes was on “The Tony Kornheiser Show (1)” Monday, also known as the Best Radio Show Extant. On said show, Mr. Tony suggested that perhaps Kentucky (2) is the Florida State of college basketball, comparing the Wildcats to the college football Seminoles.

Kornheiser’s question is whether Kentucky is undefeated largely because of middling conference competition, not due to sheer dominance. That was Florida State, which slithered through the soft Atlantic Coast Conference 13-0 and then was exposed by Oregon when the competition grew tougher in the College Football Playoff semifinals. Could there be a similar unpleasant surprise awaiting these Wildcats when they get outside the Southeastern Conference?

That might be enough to send this rather avid UK fan into labor. But is it really an apt comparison? The Minutes examines both sides of the issue.

Reasons maybe yes: Jeff Sagarin’s football ratings ranked the ACC the fifth-best conference in America; Ken Pomeroy’s basketball ratings rank the SEC the fifth-best conference as well. Sagarin says Florida State did not face a single top-10 team in ACC play; Pomeroy says Kentucky has not faced a single top-25 team in SEC play. (That may change by the time Arkansas, currently No. 26, gets to Rupp Arena on Feb. 28.) Florida State was fortunate to escape Clemson at home, Louisville and Miami on the road; Kentucky has been fortunate to escape Mississippi at home, Texas A&M and LSU on the road. Come the Sweet 16 – or maybe even the round of 32 – there is likely to be an opponent who has been through a tougher grind than the Cats.

Reasons maybe no: Kentucky played a rigorous non-conference schedule and handled all challenges – at Louisville, Kansas and UCLA on neutral courts, North Carolina and Texas at home. But more importantly, poll voters and selection committee members alike saw through the undefeated but unimpressive Seminoles. That’s why they were ranked No. 2 in both the AP and USA Today polls, and No. 3 by the committee heading into the playoff. But Kentucky? You won’t find any number cruncher, poll voter or sentient human being who doesn’t rank the Wildcats No. 1. (Well, there is one USA Today coach voting Gonzaga on top over the Wildcats. Randy Bennett of West Coast Conference rival St. Mary’s, perhaps? The Gaels host the Zags on Saturday; does a “1” in parentheses for Gonzaga add a little juice for the home team?) While plenty of people believed Oregon, Alabama and Ohio State – not to mention TCU and Baylor – were better than Florida State in football, almost nobody is convinced that Virginia, Wisconsin, Duke or Villanova is better than Kentucky.



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Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98918 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

Pat Forde


It was only a matter of time.
Posted by Minnesota Tigah
Somehow, Wisconsin
Member since Jul 2014
883 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:25 pm to
Fair comparison
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42471 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:27 pm to
UK has proven themselves by pounding teams in the non-conference including Kansas, UNC, and then they also have two straight dominant recruiting classes. That's why they are different than FSU (even though FSU is a very solid football program).
Posted by BayouBengal0505
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
2686 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:28 pm to
Pat Forde... How I feel about him.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:44 pm to
He might have a point except for the fact that they've demolished quality teams OOC.
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
1153 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:58 pm to
Guess Pat needed a break from leg humping Slick Ricky. Between him and Dana O'Neill, it is comical reading their columns about Ky.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:05 pm to
Poor Louisville, they're forever little bro.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:46 pm to
No. SEC basketball is stronger than ACC football. Forde and Cornholer are both idiots. UK is ranked exactly where they should be.
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
Glen Iris
Member since Mar 2014
2433 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:53 pm to
FSU is the most overrated program ever. They had such an easy schedule during that 90s run, with Florida being the only elite team they faced regularly. Miami was down after Bama ended their dynasty.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:22 pm to
PF;DR
Posted by Wicked Pissah
Member since Nov 2014
731 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:30 pm to
From a cheating standpoint?
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