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CBS: End of an era ....

Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:23 pm
End of an era? Breaking down the SEC's bowl bust

Thanks SEC West.

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Excerpted:

Urban Meyer started it. Did Urban Meyer also finish it?

"It" being the SEC's reign of national championship dominance, of course, which began on Meyer's watch in 2006. His Florida Gators upset undefeated Ohio State in legendairly emphatic fashion, the first of seven consecutive SEC BCS titles that -- this much, at least, is not debatable -- changed the face of college football.

That streak ended with Auburn's loss to Florida State in the 2014 BCS championship, but at the time, it could be written off as a one-season fluke. The Seminoles were by far the strongest opponent the SEC had faced in a BCS title game, an undefeated juggernaut with a Heisman quarterback, NFL talents at nearly every position, and a season-long scoring margin comparable to the '95 Nebraska Cornhuskers; Auburn, meanwhile, had been 3-9 the season before and advanced to the national title game on the back of a series of narrow escapes and near-miraculous victories. Loss or not, that the SEC's weakest on-paper champion in years came within seconds of upsetting the best team the entire rest of college football had produced since Vince Young's Longhorns may actually have been a point in the SEC's favor.

There's no such comfort for SEC partisans in the wake of Alabama's semifinal loss to Ohio State and -- ah, the irony -- Urban Meyer. While Auburn was an 8.5-point underdog to the 'Noles, the Tide went off as 7.5-point favorites over the Buckeyes, and not without reason; not only was third-string quarterback Cardale Jones making his second career start, but this was the same Ohio State team that even with J.T. Barrett had lost by double-digits to Virginia Tech and struggled with the likes of Penn State, Minnesota and Indiana.

No matter -- the Buckeyes rolled up 537 yards on Nick Saban's defense, hounded Blake Sims into his worst performance of the season, and arguably should have beaten the SEC's top-ranked champion by more than the 42-35 final score. The Big Ten team that lost to the Hokies and lost its top two quarterbacks was still flat better than the best the SEC had to offer.

It wasn't just a shocking result -- it was the first such shocking result for the SEC in nearly 20 years, going back even further than the seven-season title streak or the entire BCS era. Remember that until Auburn's loss to Florida State, the SEC had never lost a BCS championship game to an opponent outside the league, going 8-0 in its first eight tries. The last time the SEC lost a postseason game with a national title on the line as something other than an 8.5-point underdog? You have to go back 19 seasons to 1996, when those '95 Huskers we mentioned obliterated Steve Spurrier's Gators in the Fiesta Bowl. That's how long it's been since the SEC suffered a bowl loss as damaging as the one it endured in the SuperDome Thursday night.

As any fan of any team outside the league would be quick to tell you, of course, Alabama's faceplant was far from the only embarrassment for the SEC this bowl season, with all three of its top 10 teams and five of its top-25 teams going down. Of those five losses, four came with the SEC team as the favorite, and the fifth was narrow underdog Ole Miss losing 42-3 to TCU.

Thanks to the surprisingly undefeated SEC East -- 4-0 after Tennessee's win over Iowa -- the conference's overall record of 6-5 isn't so bad. But that doesn't mean the following numbers aren't ugly:

Continued ....



Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:24 pm to
That's it. We are shutting down our program.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50727 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32938 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:30 pm to
Shut down the shitty SEC network, it's over

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:31 pm to
Urban Meyer started it some three years after LSU started it. He was the "Al Gore" of starting it.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

The Seminoles were by far the strongest opponent the SEC had faced in a BCS title game, an undefeated juggernaut with a Heisman quarterback, NFL talents at nearly every position, and a season-long scoring margin comparable to the '95 Nebraska Cornhuskers


Whut?

This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 5:32 pm
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3908 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

The last time the SEC lost a postseason game with a national title on the line as something other than an 8.5-point underdog? You have to go back 19 seasons to 1996, when those '95 Huskers we mentioned obliterated Steve Spurrier's Gators in the Fiesta Bowl.


Maybe the little coaching triva tidbit explains why you guys still suck so bad.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:34 pm to
The SEC went 12 years without a national title winner from 1980 to 1992.

We'll be fine.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:36 pm to
SEC bowl victors
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Georgia
Missouri
Tennessee

SEC bowl showdowns
LSU (3 pt loss)
Auburn (3 pt loss)
Alabama (7 pt loss)

SEC bowl big losers
*I don't think anyone's ever the least bit surprised by the state of Mississippi losing anything. That's not meant to be ugly; it's the truth.
Ole Miss
Mississippi State


By end of an era, most people likely mean: "Alabama lost. That's surprising."
The media is doing what the media does best: Creating a story where none exists.

This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 5:37 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37579 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

By end of an era, most people likely mean: "Alabama lost. That's surprising."
The media is doing what the media does best: Creating a story where none exists.


Did any of the SEC programs ranked in the Top 10 post-season win their bowl?

And you think that is not a story?
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:00 pm to
It's definitely a story. I don't really know if it means anything though.

Come next August football will be played, stadiums in the SEC will be packed, teams will win, teams will lose, and the media will write about it.

The only thing that I don't like about this time is that the offseason is coming. Whether the SEC is up or down doesn't matter one bit.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Did any of the SEC programs ranked in the Top 10 post-season win their bowl?

Again, that would be Alabama and the Mississippis.
If any stories are to be teased out of that, they would be: (a) Alabama finally shows a weakness, and (b) Ole Miss and Mississippi State ... same as it ever was.
They were horribly overvalued

The conference--as a whole--has done well for itself.
Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 6:03 pm
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:15 pm to
There's truth to it, but who really cares. The SEC's string of NC wins will never be matched. The game is cyclical and nothing lasts forever.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5703 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

There's truth to it, but who really cares. The SEC's string of NC wins will never be matched. The game is cyclical and nothing lasts forever.


Agree!

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37579 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:58 pm to
See .... I tend to believe there will be a different effect to the causality that we witnessed these past few days.

I believe there was a SEC program who needed a good beatin' and a couple of others who got the big-head this season and that all of this will be corrected between now and this time next year.

IMHO the SEC East will be much tougher next year while the West will be pretty darn good again ... but next year the West will take their bowl games far more seriously, although I honestly believe the West took their bowl games seriously this year and still took a beatin'.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37579 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

There's truth to it, but who really cares. The SEC's string of NC wins will never be matched. The game is cyclical and nothing lasts forever.


What the SEC did in that regard is nothing special.

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