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re: SEC to Tennessee: Do Not Schedule Baylor

Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:49 am to
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:49 am to
Baylor should probably sue somebody. Not sure who, but there's bound to be somebody at fault here. Probably Mizzou Chancellor Loftin. He looks guilty.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:58 am to
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OOC games are now scheduled with 'guidance' from the front office now. The rule was changed very recently (this year's meeting IIRC) and as a way of strengthening OOC schedules because certain teams weren't scheduling decent OOC opponents.


The only rule that was changed was that schools had to schedule at least one Power 5 opponent. At least one. That means that as far as the SEC office is concerned, Tennessee absolutely could have scheduled Baylor and Oklahoma if they had wanted to. Some blogger on a Baylor website has connections in the SEC office that say otherwise. Right.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:07 am to
Nice twist.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6024 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:54 am to
quote:

The only rule that was changed was that schools had to schedule at least one Power 5 opponent. At least one. That means that as far as the SEC office is concerned, Tennessee absolutely could have scheduled Baylor and Oklahoma if they had wanted to. Some blogger on a Baylor website has connections in the SEC office that say otherwise. Right.


This would be the first thing Brian would be wrong about. He isn't Chip Brown or Billy Luicci.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 3:14 am to
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I don't buy any of that.

Why would Tennessee open up the season with back to back games against Oklahoma and Baylor? Tennessee has nothing to gain by playing 2 of the best Big 12 teams, or any 2 Big 12 teams for that matter, before starting play in the hardest conference in the country.

UT has consistently played one of the hardest schedules in the nation and at minimum has had a back to back top 10 rankings in hardest schedules over the last 2 years.

Trying to duck Baylor? I doubt it. UTs schedule is already littered with solid match ups and a very strong SOS. Tell Baylors AD to schedule like they have a set and you won't encounter this problem.

And for the record, I don't believe this article is true or accurate. I don't buy Dave Heart trying to create the toughest schedule in the country during what will be his head coaches most pivotal year in the program -- year 3. If he is, than AD Dave Heart needs to hand over the reigns as far as scheduling is concerned.




This. Baylor brings nothing to the table in terms of scheduling when your schedule is already loaded.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:23 am to
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This would be the first thing Brian would be wrong about.


Then it's the first thing. He's full of shite on this one. Like I said...some blogger from Waco with connections...reliable connections...in Birmingham. bullshite.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:59 am to
quote:

quote:
Obviously not.


We wanted to play them. SEC said no. :(



Sure. And Texas A&M wanted to play Texas but the SEC said no to that too.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23019 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:40 am to
If true, SEC offices really do suck.
Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:13 am to
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Would of been a fun game. Curious as to why the SEC would nix the game?


You dumbasses seem to think we all have short memories. Why would the SEC allow a member school to play a school that tried to sue the SEC and block A&M from joining? And now Baylor wants to act like none of this happened? Maybe your actions did indeed have some repricussions.

frick Baylor. They get to lie in the bed they made.

The SEC did the right thing if this is true.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:24 am to
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Tennessee will never sink to only winning 2/3 games.






This recruiting class was born after UTs last NC. The orange brand is fading.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:35 am to
quote:

to prevent Baylor from getting a power 5 game and because Big 12 doesn't have title game


it is much more simple and logical to believe that the game was nixed to prevent a once upon a time SEC powerpuncher from getting their arse kicked on a national stage and weaken the perception of the SEC even further than UT already has.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 9:18 am to
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There's no way we could embarrass the SEC like LSU in the 90s. Those 2, 3, and 4 win seasons were truly pathetic.


LSU currently owns the nation's longest out of conference winning streak in the regular season. Tennessee's OOC games are almost always losses.

It's one thing to schedule big OOC games. It's another thing to win them. Or even play competitively in them. Tennessee has done neither.

Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:20 am to
From the Baylor posters.

quote:

A rare chiming in from me... Brian or others can confirm, but this is kind of an older story from what I heard a couple weeks ago.

The version as told to me was that the two ADs spoke briefly and there was mutual interest, but the SEC is trying to find more uniformity in their P5 scheduling which kept any talks from getting serious. And even then Tennessee probably wouldn't have done it anyway with OU on the schedule too. The conversation didn't go anywhere and I'm actually very surprised it's even a story now. It's really a non-event.


Had Tennessee scheduled Baylor they would have had 10 P5 games (2 P5 OOC) and the rest of the conference only 9 (some with 8, working on their 9th P5 as an OOC). So I can see where the SEC stands on this.



As much as we'd all love a narrative about the SEC wanting their teams to avoid Baylor, it's really not what happened.


FWIW, I'd love to go to a game at Tennessee. Fantastic atmosphere. Two great stadiums for a home and home. Maybe down the road we can make it happen.




quote:

This is all very entertaining, to be sure. How accurate? Who knows. If the SEC "stepped in", I can guarantee it wasn't because they were scared of Baylor or some such crazy notion. If they stepped in, it was likely a legit business reason having to do with a big picture, not some fear of Baylor.

Frankly, I seriously doubt the SEC stepped in at all...doesn't pass the common sense test. Far more likely is the notion that Baylor/Tenn couldn't work out the details, whatever they were. And, it's laughable to think Tenn is trying to dodge us...they have been one of the most aggressive schedulers in the last quarter century.

At the heart of all this is a very good thing...it seems we are trying to change our scheduling. That's excellent.


This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145075 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:25 am to
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Frankly, I seriously doubt the SEC stepped in at all...doesn't pass the common sense test. Far more likely is the notion that Baylor/Tenn couldn't work out the details, whatever they were. And, it's laughable to think Tenn is trying to dodge us...they have been one of the most aggressive schedulers in the last quarter century.
bingo. but nice spin Baptists
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19693 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:27 am to
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I would have been pissed if they had blocked us from playing Oregon in 2011.


Had they did so, LSU likely would have played Oregon for the national title and Bama doesn't get a second shot.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68426 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:46 am to
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We already have a crazy SoS but that would make it insane.


LSU played the rose bowl, orange bowl and bcs title winners away from home. And won all 3.
Posted by prisonpunk
Member since Dec 2013
1598 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:05 am to
I don't believe this for a second. If the SEC was afraid of losing why would they allow A&M's schedule?

2015-Arizona State @Houston
2016-UCLA
2017-@UCLA
2018-Clemson
2019-@Clemson
2024-Notre Dame
2025-@Notre Dame
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69895 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:11 am to
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2015-Arizona State @Houston
2016-UCLA
2017-@UCLA
2018-Clemson
2019-@Clemson
2024-Notre Dame
2025-@Notre Dame




That's a gauntlet
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145075 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:38 am to
el oh el
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26574 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:56 am to
For the sake of the SEC, I hope this game does not happen. Baylor would annihilate Tennessee.
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