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re: Looking forward at 2015.

Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by croomdawggie
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:12 pm to
You asked for thoughts so I gave you mine.

Market and Cox being out is the reason that JT is at safety. He will be back at OLB (Wells Position) next year. Walley haha. The backup center was our best offensive lineman and we were playing Texas A&M. Glad you didn't argue Richie Brown being the same.

Sorry you are so mad bro.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:15 pm to
I think Richie has the potential to be just as good, which was my point. I'm not looking at game 1, I'm assessing where they could be this time a year from now.

quote:

I don't even think you know the point you are trying to argue. This thread is titled 2015 which means immediate. Then you say on down the line they will be better and in one post you are arguing NFL potential.


See above. I used that to compare Green and Wells, but my general assessment is the end of next season. Hard to argue that they will all improve over the course of the season, my judgements were by where they could be by this time a year from now.

It's cool if you disagree, but you can't argue that we are upgrading from a raw talent standpoint at every position listed with exception of LB.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted by BaseballDawg23
MS
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Preston Smith

AJ Jefferson will probably replace him. I figure Calvin will see a lot of playing time too.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:50 pm to
Yeah that is the biggest question mark IMO. I do think Ryan Brown is going to surprise people though, maybe that will help offset the loss of Preston.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:57 pm to
Brown was the second best DL we had this year. No one should be surprised by him....

Need 3 of AJ/Calvin/Coleman/Harris/Dale to step up...
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:06 pm to
What is up with Jake Thomas? I remember people being really excited about him and he is never mentioned.

Edited to add: I know Thomas is OL and a switch from your topic but I was thinking about overall team depth.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted by 17theBears
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:31 pm to
You went full retard.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:18 pm to
Yeah there's just no way to say improvement or not on most of these. One thing i would never say is that anyone at all will be an improvement over Wells. I have no idea why recruiting stars are mentioned. I am more excited about next year than i thought i would be though. I asked Santa for no more Holloway hb dives next year.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:25 pm to
So what you're saying is every single starter on next season's State squad is either as good or better than this season's?



















































































Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:38 pm to
Yeah my Wells comparison was under the assumption that we fill the spot with a true LB. We will see how it all pans out. He is one of my favorite players, he is an odd piece though and I don't think it's something you try to duplicate.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Donnie Darko Dawg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:40 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:53 am to
Offense:
quote:

WR: Gabe Myles (returns) - Likely replaced by Donald Gray. (Big Improvement)


I'd say slight improvement.

quote:

C: Dillon Day 2* - Replaced by Jamaal Clayborn 3*(Slight Improvement)


We can only hope in this scenario that Clayborne can play equal to Day. Even though Day was a 2* he is still wayyyyy ahead of Clayborne at this point.

quote:

TE: Malcolm Johnson 3* - Replaced by Gus Walley 3* (Same)


Not even close to the same in my opinion. Everyone's going to realize how valuable Johnson was this coming season.

Defense:
quote:

DE: Preston Smith 2* - Replaced by ?


Calvin / Coleman - Can only hope for the same. Probably a slight drop off.

quote:

LB: Matt Wells - Replaced by Gerri Green (Improvement)


No. Wells was easily the most valuable player on our defense this year. Even above McKinney. I expect Green to play MLB behind Richie anyway. He may play here some, but I expect someone else to play here, let's just hope it's not Jackson full time. Now with the change in scheme it may go back to being a regular outside LB, so you may be right projecting Green here.

Overall:

I expect the offense to be about the same, which is fine, because averaging over 500 yards of offense and 37 ppg is pretty impressive.

Defense has to be improved slightly I would hope. I can't imagine we give up more yards, but may not be as good in the red zone, 3rd down conversions, and completion %.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:42 am to
Wells caught Collins, of ArKansas, from behind, or we're in BIG trouble in that game...
Posted by BaseballDawg23
MS
Member since May 2012
260 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Calvin / Coleman

AJ Jefferson will be starting, he had more TFL than Kaleb Eulls and Chris Jones.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:50 am to
Yeah I forgot about him. You'll likely see a combination of the 4 (Calvin, Coleman, Jefferson, and Brown) all the time though.

I would assume they'll all play about the same amount of time.

Now that's given we still do the same types of rotations. It's so hard to predict what's going to happen without knowing who the DC will be and what kind of schemes he uses.

ETA:

quote:

AJ Jefferson will be starting, he had more TFL than Kaleb Eulls and Chris Jones.


Just because he had more TFL than a couple of DT's doesn't really mean that he will start, however. Calvin was a stud in JUCO and Coleman is a speed rusher. Very different types of players.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:18 pm to
I think you need to take the maroon goggles off. Im all for being optimistic, but its way to early to write in Desper and Clayborn as improvements to Beckwith and Day.

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TE: Malcolm Johnson 3* - Replaced by Gus Walley 3* (Same)
Ehh Malcolm was great when healthy.

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LB: Benardrick McKinney 2* - Replaced by Richie Brown 4*(same)
HA. No knock on Richie but come on. Benardrick is going to be a 1st rounder.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16949 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:40 pm to

quote:

Benardrick McKinney Replaced by Richie Brown (same)


I really like this one



quote:

LB: Matt Wells - Replaced by Gerri Green (Improvement)


No

quote:

C: Dillon Day Replaced by Jamaal Clayborn (Slight Improvement)


Clayborn isn't gonna be a Remington Finalist next season



Yall will be good again next season though




This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:38 pm to
What does that last quote have to do with Desper?

Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16949 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:47 pm to
Fixed


I was thinking about Desper because apparently he's also gonna step right in for an All American and be better by season's end
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:53 pm to
He looked great when he stepped in this season. Our OL look better than they are because of our offensive scheme and because Hevesy is a bad arse.
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