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re: Arkansas: why no cities or pro teams?

Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 am to
Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
2059 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 am to
quote:

 A shitty appetizer at Friday's is the cities favorite food? 


Don't forget tasteless cracker crust with some kind of fricked up processed white cheese like substance pizza.

KC metro is nice...in Kansas.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:21 am to
Trying to troll Arkansas with our lack of big cities is a losing effort; the best you can hope for is a lot of "And thank God for that!" replies from people who live here or come up to enjoy the state's many outdoor activities.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:39 am to
Little Rock MSA: 724,000+ (2013 US Census est.)

NWA MSA: 482,000 (US Census 2012 est.)

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:42 am to
NWA is over 500k now, pretty much the same size as Springfield, MO and not much smaller than Jackson, MS metro.

I moved back to Arkansas because I could live in a small town and make good money, without a soul-destroying daily commute.

Pro sports are overrated anyway. They primarily serve as a reason for people to get drunk midweek. I've never needed an excuse to do that.
Posted by Mizzourah2006
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2013
289 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I moved back to Arkansas because I could live in a small town and make good money, without a soul-destroying daily commute.


The most redeeming quality right here. Along with the abundance of nature obviously.

Low COL and a lot of money.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

My family settled in the Ozarks in 1823. Which is kinda crazy.
Where in the Ozarks?

I need to figure out when my dad's side settled in Arkansas. I grew up in Batesville which is the second oldest town in the state that is still inhabited (I think Georgetown, near Searcy, is older). My surname is Scottish and Lyon College is a Presbyterian-affiliated private college that I believe has ties to Ulster Scots who immigrated to the US in the 19th century, hence why Lyon's sports teams are "the Scots" (men) and "the Pipers" (women). I'm wondering if my family was part of the Scottish crew that moved to Arkansas back then.

It's weird because most people in the US with my surname are in the rust belt. There aren't many families in Arkansas.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:02 am to
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NWA is over 500k now, pretty much the same size as Springfield, MO and not much smaller than Jackson, MS metro.

I moved back to Arkansas because I could live in a small town and make good money, without a soul-destroying daily commute.

Pro sports are overrated anyway. They primarily serve as a reason for people to get drunk midweek. I've never needed an excuse to do that.
If I could get a job in NWA, I would move back in a heartbeat. Unfortunately there are less than 10 people doing what I do in NWA, and it costs millions of dollars in investments to create even one position for my profession, meaning I can't just start my own business. It's saturated now, so that's not going to happen. I'll probably have to wait until someone retires, dies, or gets dumb and moves away.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 10:20 am
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:15 am to
Yep.

Think of a town of less than 80k people with good schools and a Fortune 500 headquartered there. Sounds great, right?

We have three towns in NWA that fit that description, and the fourth city is home to an SEC university.

Its a great place.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:20 am to
I would LOVE to move back. The kids went digging for diamonds for the first time last summer. The entire State offers something for everyone
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9472 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:30 am to
Dude, you ever been to NW Arkansas? It's booming and beautiful and there is more culture there than most places in the South.

I realize this will sound snobbish, but DWI...I've been to art museums all over the United States and Europe, including some of the best-known in the world. With all that experience, I have to say Crystal Bridges is at least in the top 3 of best museums I've ever visited. And it's in Bentonville, Arkansas. The state has a ton to offer and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:32 am to
The CIA and the mob need a backward state that they can control for gun and drug running.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

The CIA and the mob need a backward state that they can control for gun and drug running.

Shhhh!!!

He's not serious
Posted by elksnort
Jonesboro, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2014
39 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:43 am to
soul-destroying daily commute.


Great phrase. I'll have to use this.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Its a great place.


How are the liquor laws and bar scenes?

My only complaint in the times I've gone has been the long drive to get there and the shitty weather (went in November)
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Dude, you ever been to NW Arkansas? It's booming and beautiful and there is more culture there than most places in the South.

inb4urayankee
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:53 am to
quote:

How are the liquor laws and bar scenes?


Both counties are wet. Several of the towns have Sunday liquor store sales (the state overall has few). Fayetteville doesn't open its liquor stores on Sundays, but its adjacent to two cities that do. No restrictions on liquor by the drink or anything like that.

Fayetteville's college bar scene is as good as any in any SEC town.

Bentonville's dining scene is booming, and their town square area is cool.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:27 pm to
I love NWA, but I have relatives in both KC and St. Louis (I'll be visiting both over the next 4 days).

Whoever said that St. Louis has a bad food scene is FoS or doesn't know what's happening there. Both KC and St. Louis have excellent food and beverage scenes right now.

My wife and I used to be pretty impressed with Columbia vs. Fayetteville whenever we were in school and visited both places fairly often. My wife recently went to Columbia for a few days on a business trip, and she says that it hasn't kept up with Fayetteville as far as the food scene, which is suprising because it used to seem like it was more progressive and advanced culturally than Fayetteville. People took her out to what are considered "foodie" restaurants, and she felt like the food and cocktails were pretty behind the curve.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:22 am to
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Where in the Ozarks?



Osage. G-G-G-Gpa started a church there. Not exactly proud that our president's white granny is in the same lineage. Like a lot of the early Arkansas travelers they came out of Sevier County, TN and were supporters of the State of Franklin and John Sevier (1st Governor of TN). Sevier and Andrew Jackson had a pretty heated feud and after Sevier's death in 1815, Jackson's power grew in Tennessee and things got a bit unpleasant for Sevier's extended family (my people and many of Arkansas' early settlers) and they GTFO to the frontiers of the west and new Arkansas territory.

Unfortunately for a lot of Arkansas people who descend from the hills of TN/NC (the Franklin State) the lineage search ends there because in 1856 the Sevier county courthouse had a bad fire and most all records were destroyed.




The more you know, right? When you really look into it, most of us are connected somehow from our families pasts.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:26 am to
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People took her out to what are considered "foodie" restaurants, and she felt like the food and cocktails were pretty behind the curve.



Badly. It usually takes 4-6 years for trends to hit NWA. The internet is bringing that time down sharply, but there's still a 2 year lag.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 7:31 am to
Right. But I was talking about CoMo being even further behind, these days. Back in the 90s it seemed like CoMo was ahead of F'ville.
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