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Why is Trent Richardson so bad in the NFL?

Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
Miami
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:21 pm
He was pretty good in college, but he has been dreadful in the NFL.

I thought he'd be good when he was picked #3 overall. It doesn't make sense that he sucks so bad.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:22 pm to
NFL listed deer antler spray as a banned substance.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:23 pm to
Because Nick Saban exhausts all of his players ability while they're in college
Posted by HideChaKidz
Member since Oct 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:23 pm to
Bama over work their running backs. Dude has no fuel left.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:23 pm to
Eddie Lacy took his most vital running pieces (the ankles, quads, both kneecaps, and testicles) when he made the jump to the NFL.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:28 pm to
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NFL listed deer antler spray as a banned substance.

Nailed it!
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:29 pm to
The NFL. Is hard. He was running behind a monster online in college relative to other college teams.
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:33 pm to
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Because Nick Saban exhausts all of his players ability while they're in college


Rebel, for absolute football retards like yourself, who like to pretend, for some reason, like they are intelligent, I give you this:

Richardson's misuse.

I'll just c/p the answer I gave to this question last year since it's relevant.

"It's not about the fact that they all came from Bama, it's the fact that all these Bama backs have (mostly) not been used properly. Bama's offense is basically a carbon copy of the Texans/Seahawks/Redskins offense. It's all zone runs, lots of PA boots thrown in with deep shots to Amari Cooper (and Julio Jones back in the day).

For a running back, reading zone blocking is way, way different than reading power. In a zone scheme the reads are often protracted and take more time since any one of three or four different holes could open up over the course of one run.

For instance, on a zone stretch the primary read might be a 5-tech defensive end. If his offensive tackle executes a successful "reach block" and seals the edge, then he races to the corner and tries to turn up field. If the defensive end beats the tackle to his outside shoulder, then his read suddenly becomes off the guard and center (depending on the alignment of the defensive front).

Again, he's reading to see if the defenders are on the right or the left of their blockers. Because of the lateral motion of the run, defenders can't really "two gap" like they normally would against a north-south power run scheme.

Either they contain play side, or pursue back side, not both. The back reads which linemen win, which linemen lose, and makes his decision based off of that. The read takes longer, but if you have a back that can do it they can be deadly. Often this vision is what makes or breaks a one cut zone runner rather than athletic ability (case in point Arian Foster and Alfred Morris).

Now, on a power scheme the back is often reading one designed hole that the play is intending to get the ball through from start to finish. It's a faster read, and more often than not the back has to follow a full back or pulling lineman into the hole and react based on whatever chaos gets created in the wash.

Power runners are often more athletically gifts (or just flat out bigger humans) because they have to bounce, juke, and pound their way through a mass of bodies that usually ends up in different places than initially planned.

A lot of pure zone runners either lack the instinct or lack the physical ability to succeed in power schemes because it's a completely different style of read.

Similarly, a lot of pure power runners fail in zone schemes because they lack the vision to dissect multiple blocks at the same time and make a decision to cut up field at the appropriate time (think Darren McFadden failing miserably last season when the Raiders switched to a zone scheme).

So what does this have to do with Bama backs? Indy runs power, Green Bay runs zone. Trent Richardson's bruising reputation in college caused him to get labeled as a "down hill power runner" coming into the league, but in reality he was just a one cut zone runner that also happened to be really, REALLY hard to tackle.

He's basically Marshawn Lynch 2.0, except Lynch also happens to be in a zone scheme where his talents and vision can flourish with his ability to fight for yardage.

Cleveland ran power, found out quickly that he wasn't a power runner, and traded him to Indy, who is now also finding out that he has no idea what he's doing in a power scheme.

Contrast all this with Lacy, who is in a scheme that runs lots of stretches, lots of pin and pull zone plays to the edge, and lots of tosses in order to get into situations where he is most successful - in space.

Lacy thrives when he has time to read his blocking, so the Packers cater to that by using a lot of run plays that take longer to develop than the Iso's and Dives that come with most power run games. Will the Pack run a power play every now and then to take advantage of Lacy's size?

Absolutely, but their bread and butter is letting Lacy read zone blocking and use his size and power to break tackles in space. Lacy is a very similar back to Trent Richardson.

Both of them are big, powerful runners. The only difference is that one team is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, while the other is not.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:34 pm to
He is just too slow.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15287 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:34 pm to
He never had great vision. Probably not the full piece but one part of the puzzle.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:34 pm to
You wrote all that and no one here will read it.

Also the joke










Your head
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44717 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:34 pm to
He never seemed to run with authority in Cleveland. Always seemed hesitant to get to the hole and put his head down. He had rib injuries throughout his time with the Browns, which probably played a bigger role than was talked about. It's an absolutely baffling question though because I also thought he was going to be an all pro type for 4-5 years before the physical toll of being a RB in the NFL caught up with him.

Also, having Brandon Weeden at QB didn't help. Defenses could put 9 in the box, double cover Josh Gordon, and Weeden was completely useless.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18614 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

Because Nick Saban exhausts all of his players ability while they're in college


This.

Which is exactly why Eddie Lacy and Julio Jones are so terrible.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:36 pm to
Roll Tide and but....yeah....


Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:38 pm to
I read it, and it makes sense, but it also insinuates that Richardson would do well if he was suddenly transplanted to Eddie Lacy's situation. I don't think that's the case.
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:40 pm to
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Roll Tide and but....yeah....


Sure, it was a long read but, not nearly as aggravating as a fricking Ole Missus Black Bear, of all fans, actually insinuating that they understand football.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:41 pm to
He understands that 23 is greater than 17.
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
Glen Iris
Member since Mar 2014
2433 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:43 pm to
Trent isn't being utilized the right way.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:44 pm to
Has Julio Jones made through an entire season yet without missing a game or more? I really don't know.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:53 pm to
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He is just too slow.



This. He looks a lot thicker now than when he was in college and looks slower and less flexible/ agile as a result. He was such a beast in HS and college that the normal bulking up/ weight that people go through after college and in their early 20s has hurt him.
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