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San Francisco follows Seattle as it votes in a $15 minimum wage

Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:28 am
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I guess I'm old school when I say if you want more money, you should work on getting a better job.

I haven't made minimum wage since I was bagging groceries at age 17 and I don't understand grown arse adults wanting the government to force their employers to pay them like college graduates for a shite job.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:29 am to
And Cali is broke enough as it is
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:29 am to
That minimum wage isn't feasible in the poorer parts of the country. Small businesses in rural parts of America would be crushed.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:32 am to
I wonder what happens to the people already making $15/hr when this happens. Are there any stats on it yet?
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:33 am to
Absurd. Low skill workers deserve a pay to match their jobs. It's absurd that these people want the same pay as many nurses, police officers, etc.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5055 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:35 am to
Aren't those two the most expensive cities to live in? So they may need a little more money than us in the South to survive.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:35 am to
If fast food joints are going to pay $15 per hr maybe they can get some people in them that actually fricking work.
Posted by Razorbacking
Member since Aug 2013
71 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:36 am to
What does this solve? Basic Econ suggest when price inputs increase so do prices. Everything will just get more expensive.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46407 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:37 am to
Not likely unless its Chickfila
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:38 am to
They dont call Cali the land of fruits and nuts for nothing.

Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
27244 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:39 am to
As if inflation hasn't been happening since "quantitative easing" has occurred, this is certainly not going to help.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48736 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:44 am to
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Aren't those two the most expensive cities to live in? So they may need a little more money than us in the South to survive.


I would say they should move if they can't afford to live in a certain community or city. That's what normal people have to do.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:53 am to
It's amazing how entire cities can be ignorant about economics.

The only circumstance under which I'd agree that low skill workers should get $15 an hour is if they get sterilized.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:58 am to
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As if inflation hasn't been happening since "quantitative easing" has occurred


Uh...not really.

The dollar is very strong relative to pretty much every currency out there. It's a part of the lower gas prices you are currently seeing.

Wage growth has been pretty much flat and that's typically your driver of inflation. Fuel costs and droughts have caused an uptick in food prices and other goods, but that's not inflation.

To the topic at hand, I understand raising the minimum wage some in cities with a high cost of living like SF. The national minimum wage isn't enough to get by in those places. Now a spike to $15 may be extreme, but I understand the sentiment.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:59 am to
Title should read:
quote:

San Francisco follows Seattle as it pushes development in the automated fast food kiosk industry

Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:11 am to
SF and Cali have had higher minimum wages than the national for lame time.

$15 in SF is like $9 in Louisiana when you factor in everything. People can't live and work in the city and low skill workers are needed. The problem is that the entire Bay Area is getting super expensive, so who will they get to do the low wage service jobs if you can't live within 100 Miles of the place. A $15 minimum wage (or higher) actually makes economic sense there - otherwise, how can the workers needed actually live close enough to their jobs?

It is the Free Market that actually has created this situation.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
27244 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:12 am to
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It's a part of the lower gas prices you are currently seeing.


Right now-it is a small part. A larger part is the oversupply of oil.

I'm not talking about CPI-that's baloney anyway. I'm taking about prices for everyday items, such as... food. Have you been to the grocery store lately? Notice the increase in price over the past several years, and the decrease in volume of product per package?

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Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:14 am to
Chick fil a isn't legal in San Francisco.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5055 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

The dollar is very strong relative to pretty much every currency out there. It's a part of the lower gas prices you are currently seeing.


So it has nothing to do with the huge shale we are producing in house right now thus are importing less? Less importing= less cost to bring the good to the US = lower cost to consumers.
Posted by Razorbacking
Member since Aug 2013
71 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:24 am to
This will affect inflation. Think cost-push inflation. Companies are going to increase prices to get the same margin of return as before. Therefore the dollar isn't as strong.
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