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A lot of positives on one side, bunch of negatives on the other
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:55 pm
We couldn't stop a damn thing tonight. I honestly thought the game was done after the failed 4th down.
Our offense, besides two bad plays by Thompson, looked phenomenal. You guys give Thompson a lot of flak, but he threw 5 touchdowns tonight and gave us a chance at the end.
Our offense, besides two bad plays by Thompson, looked phenomenal. You guys give Thompson a lot of flak, but he threw 5 touchdowns tonight and gave us a chance at the end.
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:07 pm to CNB
Yeah without Thompson we don't have a chance in this game but, at the same time he was one of the big reasons why we lost tonight. It's just frustrating is all. Heck of an effort by the team, this game did give me some confidence that we can run the table and win out however.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:13 pm to CayceCock13
I know the two turnovers were at bad times, but we have to put equal criticism on the defense. You can't let the other team score 42 and expect to win.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:22 pm to CNB
Oh I completely agree, you don't deserve to win if you give up 42 points. Spurrier said it best tonight:
It's difficult to win when you depend solely on the offense to show up.
I think the fan base overall has just accepted that the defense blows and we have to rely on the offense to win games.
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@sportstalksc: Spurrier: we knew we would have to be close to perfect on offense and we weren't tonight.
It's difficult to win when you depend solely on the offense to show up.
I think the fan base overall has just accepted that the defense blows and we have to rely on the offense to win games.
This post was edited on 10/25/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:26 pm to CNB
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I know the two turnovers were at bad times
Plus missing an open WR in the end zone late, it was on the drive where we had a turnover on downs.
It sucks too because all of Spurrier's gambles paid off but we never could take control.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:55 pm to CNB
I've been saying that about the defense all season. I still question LW's ability to coach. These guys just don't react to anything in front of them. I really hope he's not on the coaching staff after the season is over.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 12:25 am to CNB
Thompson threw 2 picks in the redzone. One looked like I was out there throwing the ball. I don't care how well a qb plays, 2 picks in the redzone is unacceptable.
Thompson also continued to show his knack for delivering the ball into the upper atmosphere of the stadium. He had a bunch of yard and tds, but that's what happens when you play a bad defense and throw the ball 50 times.
This game didn't show us anything we didn't already know. Well play up and down to the competition on the other sideline. I expect our last 3 games to be close, and to lose at least one. South Alabama doesn't count
Thompson also continued to show his knack for delivering the ball into the upper atmosphere of the stadium. He had a bunch of yard and tds, but that's what happens when you play a bad defense and throw the ball 50 times.
This game didn't show us anything we didn't already know. Well play up and down to the competition on the other sideline. I expect our last 3 games to be close, and to lose at least one. South Alabama doesn't count
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:55 am to CNB
We played an above average game on offense. The 2 Redzone picks...that's a big reason why we lost. However, the biggest reason is or defense is awful and has been all year.
I knew the defense wasn't going to be as good this year b/c of youth, but I was hoping for a steady progression as the season went on and as the players gained experience.
The O Line did a great job of giving Thompson time to throw. Thompson was off target on about 10 passes though and then he would have an amazing throw here or there. We ran the ball pretty well, but it was like I thought and we were going to expose their pass defense (which we did.)
Our DT's played bad, they got no push. We didn't stack the box often enough. There were more than a dozen plays where I saw 6 guys in the box.
The onside kick was brilliant. However, Spurrier should have tried for points at the end of the 1st half, we had over 2 minutes on the clock.
Coach Ward has to get this defense to progress, otherwise we'll struggle with the remaining awful teams.
I knew the defense wasn't going to be as good this year b/c of youth, but I was hoping for a steady progression as the season went on and as the players gained experience.
The O Line did a great job of giving Thompson time to throw. Thompson was off target on about 10 passes though and then he would have an amazing throw here or there. We ran the ball pretty well, but it was like I thought and we were going to expose their pass defense (which we did.)
Our DT's played bad, they got no push. We didn't stack the box often enough. There were more than a dozen plays where I saw 6 guys in the box.
The onside kick was brilliant. However, Spurrier should have tried for points at the end of the 1st half, we had over 2 minutes on the clock.
Coach Ward has to get this defense to progress, otherwise we'll struggle with the remaining awful teams.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:35 am to CockInYourEar
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The onside kick was brilliant. However, Spurrier should have tried for points at the end of the 1st half, we had over 2 minutes on the clock.
This was the only thing I had a problem with last night. Blew my mind that we didn't try and score in that situation.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:13 am to CockInYourEar
We had chances to win it - just didn't capitalize on our chances. A couple more scores here and there, a couple stops here and there, and we walk outta there with a big upset win.
Lotta blame to go around if that's what we're doing - but overall they played with a lotta heart and I was glad to see that. No moral victory, but they played with heart.
Lotta blame to go around if that's what we're doing - but overall they played with a lotta heart and I was glad to see that. No moral victory, but they played with heart.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:56 am to CNB
For what it's worth, I still think Dylan is the 2nd best QB we've had under Spurrier, behind only Shaw.
Yeah we got spoiled with Shaw's decision-making, especially in his last year with only 1 INT, but look at these QBs:
Mitchell
Newton
Smelley
Beecher
Garcia
Would anyone here really take either of those QBs over Thompson? I wouldn't.
Yeah we got spoiled with Shaw's decision-making, especially in his last year with only 1 INT, but look at these QBs:
Mitchell
Newton
Smelley
Beecher
Garcia
Would anyone here really take either of those QBs over Thompson? I wouldn't.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 12:30 pm to theGarnetWay
Shaw
Mitchell
Garcia
Smelley
Thompson
Newton and Beecher didn't start enough games for me to rank them
Mitchell
Garcia
Smelley
Thompson
Newton and Beecher didn't start enough games for me to rank them
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/26/14 at 12:55 pm to Cockopotamus
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Mitchell
Garcia
Smelley
Thompson
Mitchell and Garcia? Really? You want to talk about inconsistency those 2 names are right up there. In his final season Mitchell threw 10 TDs and 9 INTs.
Garcia went from 20 TDs in his JR season to 4 in his last season, with 9 INTs.
Anyone who ranks Smelley over Thompson is clearly just pissed.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:03 pm to theGarnetWay
Mitchell and Garcia were inconsistent over their careers. But they weren't as up in down in a single game as Thompson is and at their best I'd take both Mitchell and Garcia. Thompson at his best is still 55% with 3 picks, 2 in the redzone.
Plus Mitchell didn't have an oline and Garcia was at least mobile enough to run the zone read.
Plus Mitchell didn't have an oline and Garcia was at least mobile enough to run the zone read.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:04 pm to Cockopotamus
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Plus Mitchell didn't have an oline and Garcia was at least mobile enough to run the zone read.
No but they had better defenses. The offense we have now averages about 35ppg, at this point a school record.
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But they weren't as up in down in a single game as Thompson
You're right. They'd play lights out one game and then just no show for half the season.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:15 pm to theGarnetWay
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No but they had better defenses. The offense we have now averages about 35ppg, at this point a school record.
Thompson has more weapons on offense. Hes not the reason we're scoring 35ppg.
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You're right. They'd play lights out one game and then just no show for half the season.
It wasn't half the season. And at least they weren't guaranteed to throw a late game INT like Thompson is.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:20 pm to theGarnetWay
I would agree that DT is our 2nd best QB under Spurrier. The only better QB play we have had than Shaw was 2010 Garcia until the SECCG.
Garcia had his moments, but all the other QB's were not very good at all in my opinion.
Garcia had his moments, but all the other QB's were not very good at all in my opinion.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:21 pm to Cockopotamus
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It wasn't half the season. And at least they weren't guaranteed to throw a late game INT like Thompson is.
Because most of the time we played a big game with them, we weren't in it in the first place. I don't remember any five touchdown performances for those guys either.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:24 pm to Cockopotamus
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Thompson has more weapons on offense. Hes not the reason we're scoring 35ppg.
He threw 5 TDs, I'm pretty sure he was a big reason. And Garcia had two of the all-time greats on his side, Lattimore and Jeffrey, plus NFLers all over that defense.
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It wasn't half the season. And at least they weren't guaranteed to throw a late game INT like Thompson is.
Do you really want to want to go over Mitchell's and Garcia's careers vs AU? Mitchell never played. Injured in one, had been benched by the 2nd one in 2006. If you recall, the last time we were shutout we had Mitchell at the helm.
I think we all know Garcia's history vs AU.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:25 pm to CNB
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Because most of the time we played a big game with them, we weren't in it in the first place. I don't remember any five touchdown performances for those guys either.
Thats not true. We were in several big games with both at QB.
And the only other time I remember Spurrier throwing the ball 50 times was against UGA in 09. And that game had at least 2 pass TDs called back for holding by the atrocious oline
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