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Sherman's excuses for 2011
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:11 am
Per Loftin's book ( LINK)
He used "lack of senior leadership" as an excuse.
When you had the following STARTERS as seniors
Ryan Tannehill
Cyrus Gray
Jeff Fuller
Tony Jerod-Eddie
Eddie Brown
Garrick Williams
Trent Hunter
Terrence Frederick
Coryell Judie
Randy Bullock
You don't get to make that excuse. Also, I'm glad to see that Byrne was forced out and didn't "decide to retire" as reported. I don't doubt for one second that he was Kirk Bohls leak which is why he was so butthurt that Byrne left.
He used "lack of senior leadership" as an excuse.
When you had the following STARTERS as seniors
Ryan Tannehill
Cyrus Gray
Jeff Fuller
Tony Jerod-Eddie
Eddie Brown
Garrick Williams
Trent Hunter
Terrence Frederick
Coryell Judie
Randy Bullock
You don't get to make that excuse. Also, I'm glad to see that Byrne was forced out and didn't "decide to retire" as reported. I don't doubt for one second that he was Kirk Bohls leak which is why he was so butthurt that Byrne left.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:15 am to CGSC Lobotomy
He's probably right, though it's not an excuse. He should have developed the leaders. I liked a lot of the guys you listed as players and many seemed like good guys, but pissing away second half leads like that definitely indicates a lack of leadership
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:19 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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but pissing away second half leads like that definitely indicates a lack of leadership
Or it indicated HORRIFIC playcalling and a complete lack of 2nd half adjustments.
In Sherman's entire tenure at A&M, A&M came back from a deficit of more than one score once (Baylor in 2010). Of course they blew several 2+ score leads from 2008-2011, including the Arkansas State debacle, when they led 14-3 at the half.
Contrast that with Sumlin's tenure
Trailed Ole Miss by 10 late 4th, won by 3
Trailed Rice 14-0 in the 1st, won by 21
Trailed Ole Miss late in 4th, won by 3
Trailed Duke by 21 at the half, won by 4
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:19 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
And I hold absolutely zero ill will toward Sherman. He left a foundation for success and was a good transitional coach from Fran. He did everything he could and I wish him the best.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:20 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Or it indicated HORRIFIC playcalling and a complete lack of 2nd half adjustments.
It can be both. Pissing away leads like that doesn't have to be black and white on blame.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:21 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Pissing away leads like that doesn't have to be black and white on blame.
What about pissing away leads like that across a career. (4th and 26 anyone?)
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:23 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Right, I figured when you started this thread and the one on the rant you were going to use it to shite all over Sherman unnecessarily 3 years after the fact and dwell on the past. I've said my piece, carry on
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:38 am to CGSC Lobotomy
When is the book actually coming out? I've had it on order for some time.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:40 am to Quidam65
1st week in September, I think.
If I was going to shite all over Sherman, I would have brought up the whole Incognito/Martin thing that got him fired in Miami.
If I was going to shite all over Sherman, I would have brought up the whole Incognito/Martin thing that got him fired in Miami.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:45 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Thanks.
Reading the article, I'd heard that Byrne wasn't too fond of A&M going to the SEC. I didn't know about Sherman not caring for it either.
If the AD and the HFC weren't supportive of a conference change, then it was time for them to go.
Reading the article, I'd heard that Byrne wasn't too fond of A&M going to the SEC. I didn't know about Sherman not caring for it either.
If the AD and the HFC weren't supportive of a conference change, then it was time for them to go.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:46 am to Quidam65
Sherman said it AFTER the move was announced.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:14 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I can't talk about 2011
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:51 am to Manzielathon
A&M played football in 2011?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:56 am to TbirdSpur2010
Only the first half.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:41 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I stand by what I've said all along - the only reason Sherman's tenure was a failure was a complete lack of strength and conditioning. He let them practice like they were in the nfl but needed them to play in an up tempo offense.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I think it's both. Second half collapses it was everyone on the bench sitting around with a look of panic on their face, and Sherman buried in his playbook. It was the blind leading the blind.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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What about pissing away leads like that across a career. (4th and 26 anyone?)
I remember that. Twas embarrassing.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 5:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
I don't think it was both. Sherman caused that lack of "leadership" and those blank, lost looks by losing the team. He lost the team for the same reason he lost us: infuriating play-calling that absolutely boggled the mind. The same thing happened at Miami. Players there started to opine to the media that they were bewildered by Sherman abandoning the run in the second half.
Sherman doesn't deserve to be denigrated with all sorts of nastiness, but we can speak the truth about him. He's a good man and good football coach with two fatal flaws. One is a personality flaw, the other is a coaching flaw.
Sherman is stubborn. That's his personal problem. He was told by the AD to get an OC after 2010 and refused, insisting that he could do it himself. He clearly couldn't, so his firing is his own fault.
Sherman is a gifted talent evaluator, an excellent O-line coach, and a good overall manager. His offensive scheme is effective. He isn't a natural play-caller though. Professionally, play-calling is his weakness. He is the anti-Petrino. He doesn't have great rhythm or an intuition for the best play at a given time and worst of all, tends to overthink it. He's too obsessed with balanced numbers between passing and rushing for the sake of balanced numbers and abandons the run when it is murdering the other team so that he can bring the passing numbers up. When there's a totally obvious choice that will absolutely work, Sherman will do the opposite because he fears the other coach will guess what he'll do, even if they can't stop it.
As an aside, I thought it was well-known that both Sherman and Byrne were against the SEC move. I assumed everyone knew that and I'm pretty surprised that not everyone does. It was fairly obvious from their complete lack of public praise or really commentary on it at all and rumors abounded that both were openly hostile to the idea.
Sherman doesn't deserve to be denigrated with all sorts of nastiness, but we can speak the truth about him. He's a good man and good football coach with two fatal flaws. One is a personality flaw, the other is a coaching flaw.
Sherman is stubborn. That's his personal problem. He was told by the AD to get an OC after 2010 and refused, insisting that he could do it himself. He clearly couldn't, so his firing is his own fault.
Sherman is a gifted talent evaluator, an excellent O-line coach, and a good overall manager. His offensive scheme is effective. He isn't a natural play-caller though. Professionally, play-calling is his weakness. He is the anti-Petrino. He doesn't have great rhythm or an intuition for the best play at a given time and worst of all, tends to overthink it. He's too obsessed with balanced numbers between passing and rushing for the sake of balanced numbers and abandons the run when it is murdering the other team so that he can bring the passing numbers up. When there's a totally obvious choice that will absolutely work, Sherman will do the opposite because he fears the other coach will guess what he'll do, even if they can't stop it.
As an aside, I thought it was well-known that both Sherman and Byrne were against the SEC move. I assumed everyone knew that and I'm pretty surprised that not everyone does. It was fairly obvious from their complete lack of public praise or really commentary on it at all and rumors abounded that both were openly hostile to the idea.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 5:24 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I want to buy the next book that reveals the reason why Bowtie left.
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