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Eric Garner Autopsy Results: Homicide
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:39 pm
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Eric Garner’s death by chokehold was a homicide. The Staten Island man who collapsed after being placed in the banned restraint by a police officer died from compression of the neck and chest, the New York City Medical Examiner ruled Friday. The 43-year-old victim’s asthma, obesity and high blood pressure were also contributing factors in his death, the autopsy determined.
This isn't the first this year from this cause by 5-0.
At what point do insurers start dropping police departments from liability policies for high risk?
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This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 1:44 am
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
Insurance Companies raise rates, municipalities have riders and are self-insured to cover things like this ... it's no biggie in the overall scheme of things. Not insurance wise, is what I am saying.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:52 pm to scrooster
That makes sense, I guess.
I read recently that Chicago spends $1M a week resolving police lawsuits.
That doesn't make sense.
I read recently that Chicago spends $1M a week resolving police lawsuits.
That doesn't make sense.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:56 pm to the808bass
when you see the type of people that are in the 5-0 gang it makes sense why they have to spend so much.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 5:08 pm to heartbreakTiger
Probably saved his insurance carrier in the long run
Posted on 8/1/14 at 7:15 pm to Rebelgator
I know it's partially an internet game, but your comments are still kinda sad.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:20 pm to the808bass
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That makes sense, I guess.
I read recently that Chicago spends $1M a week resolving police lawsuits.
That doesn't make sense.
It's the cost of doing business in a litigious society, especially one as corrupt at Chicago's.
Chicago and New York will both falter, and falter big, one day. It's just a matter of time. Detroit is where they are both headed.
It's been foretold ....
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:26 pm to the808bass
I've seen the video a couple of times and I can't understand why Officer Pantaleo maintained the illegal chokehold even after Garner was obviously subdued. You'd think, "I can't breathe," was a definite signal of submission.
I also can't understand why no CPR was attempted at any time. Several of the officers seemed curious about his condition but no one attempted to save his life.
I also can't understand why no CPR was attempted at any time. Several of the officers seemed curious about his condition but no one attempted to save his life.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:17 pm to Kentucker
I get they have a hard job. I get many legitimately put their lives at risk. But this fricker shouldn't be behind a desk. He should be behind bars. The circle of blue once they realized they murdered the guy is just as sickening.
And then the Boy Scouts with Badges Association then wants to say it was partially this guys fault? Even if he wasn't obeying some order, I think the guy was subdued after the first "I can't breath." If not then, certainly the second "I can't breath." No? The third "I can't breath."? How about the fourth "I can't breath."? Naw, let's keep choking the fricker out after the fifth "I can't breath." Maybe he'll just die after the sixth "I can't breath." Yep. That did the trick. Now get all the witnesses out of here will ya?
And then the Boy Scouts with Badges Association then wants to say it was partially this guys fault? Even if he wasn't obeying some order, I think the guy was subdued after the first "I can't breath." If not then, certainly the second "I can't breath." No? The third "I can't breath."? How about the fourth "I can't breath."? Naw, let's keep choking the fricker out after the fifth "I can't breath." Maybe he'll just die after the sixth "I can't breath." Yep. That did the trick. Now get all the witnesses out of here will ya?
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:28 pm to scrooster
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New York will both falter, and falter big, one day. It's just a matter of time. Detroit is where they are both headed.
NYC is one of, if not the, safest big city in America. You have no clue what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:53 pm to the808bass
I expected to read about some awful crime by or against a gay or gays, given the title.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:13 pm to the808bass
Protected: check
Served: check
Served: check
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:43 am to finestfirst79
Lol. Just noticed that.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:58 pm to the808bass
I hope the offending PD officers are prosecuted and sentenced just like I would be.
But we know they will get off easy.
But we know they will get off easy.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
Since homicide isn't necessarily murder, they'll find a way to justify the force that caused his death.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:39 pm to the808bass
He should be charged with murder. All the cops that just sat there and watched should be charged with something as well.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:34 pm to the808bass
Cops gonna cop.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:28 pm to pvilleguru
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He should be charged with murder. All the cops that just sat there and watched should be charged with something as well.
You're right about that. Was also the first time in my life that I ever saw EMT show up and do absolutely zero at the scene other than scoop him up and scoot him out.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:31 pm to reedus23
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You're right about that. Was also the first time in my life that I ever saw EMT show up and do absolutely zero at the scene other than scoop him up and scoot him out.
Every single fricking day has a story about cops that's almost worst than the last. And I post some on my Facebook page and I get "my husband deserves to come home safely" responses.
There's a storm brewing. And it won't be a pretty ending. I don't say that as a threat as I'm not a violent person. I'm just a prognosticator.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:23 am to reedus23
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Was also the first time in my life that I ever saw EMT show up and do absolutely zero at the scene other than scoop him up and scoot him out.
I didn't see the video, but that isn't necessarily an improper action. When you arrive on a scene, you've got to make a decision to "load and go" or "stay and play". A lot of factors weigh into the decision. Things like:
Can I perform the appropriate interventions by staying, or is it better to head straight to the ER and work on the way?
Even if I can perform the interventions here, does the environment allow me to do so?
Two examples where I've been involved in a load and go were a child involved in a coldwater drowning. He was literally taken from a deputy sheriff doing CPR and ran to the back of the ambulance and the back door shut as it was pulling off. In another, we had a cardiac arrest patient lying in a field in the middle of a driving thunderstorm.
Again, having only seen a small part of the video, in this situation you've got a patient in respiratory and possibly cardiac arrest. You're in a big city so the ER is probably only a few minutes away and you've got a potentially hostile scene (from both cops and bystanders) that could impact your ability to treat the patient.
I can understand a decision to get him in the bus and get the hell on the way to the ER.
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