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Pit Bulls- Is it the Breed or the Owner?
Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:31 pm
Heard about this today when I was meeting clients in Florence earlier:
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Turns out the dogs nearly killed him, got his carotid artery and he nearly bled to death. A couple of years ago, my dad was attacked by a pit bull in a hotel. Unprovoked, random and scary as hell.
Seems like you hear stories about kids being mauled by a dog all the time, and 99 out of 100 times, the dog is a pit bull who had never previously displayed aggressive behavior.
Now, I love dogs and I've owned pit bulls before, but I'm seriously starting to think these things are all just ticking time bombs. What do you guys/gals think?
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DILLON, SC -
A SC DHEC worker who was on a job-related call was attacked by two pit bulls late Tuesday morning in Dillon County, authorities say.
The incident happened at a house on Wilderness Place when the man was in the area for a work-related issue, said Capt. Cliff Arnett, with the Dillon County Sheriff's Office.
A 911 call from someone at the scene alerted officials to the attack and when they arrived they discovered the victim had been bitten several times, Arnett said.
Officers who responded then shot and killed the two dogs, who were not confined before the attack, Arnett said.
Arnett said that the victim's name would not be released.
Officials will conduct an investigation to see if charges will be filed against the owner of the dogs, Arnett said.
Turns out the dogs nearly killed him, got his carotid artery and he nearly bled to death. A couple of years ago, my dad was attacked by a pit bull in a hotel. Unprovoked, random and scary as hell.
Seems like you hear stories about kids being mauled by a dog all the time, and 99 out of 100 times, the dog is a pit bull who had never previously displayed aggressive behavior.
Now, I love dogs and I've owned pit bulls before, but I'm seriously starting to think these things are all just ticking time bombs. What do you guys/gals think?
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:34 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Owner, I've had several, and never had the slightest human aggression.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:54 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Owner, but the dog bites harder than any other breed, making them more dangerous. Considering you can't ban shitheads from owning these dogs, unfortunately banning the breed is necessary
Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Both. Anyone who says they aren't naturally more aggressive than other dogs are delusional. Having a good owner helps them though.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:07 pm to Vols&Shaft83
It's the breed. You can be denied homeowner's insurance just for having one. It's not the dog's fault, they were bred to fight, they want to fight just like a hound dog wants to sniff.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:13 pm to Stonehog
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It's not the dog's fault, they were bred to fight, they want to fight just like a hound dog wants to sniff.
Holy shite, I just agreed with you about something. *Bookmarked*
Savor this moment.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Owner.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:20 pm to roadhouse
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Owner, but the dog bites harder than any other breed
I agree... more times than not, its because of the owner. However, the Rottweiler has the strongest bite followed by the German Shepherd and Pit Bull.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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A couple of years ago, my dad was attacked by a pit bull in a hotel.
Sounds like your dad was a little sideways and wandered into a house he thought was a hotel.
Or your dad accidentally booked a room at a dog hotel and started acting racist.
Or a pitbull was minding his own business, trying to get a room at a human hotel and your dad objected.
Either way, they are equally believable.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:34 pm to Slippery Slope
frick you Slope. You know nothing. NOTHING.
I hate you.
I hate you.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:35 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I'm sorry Slope, I didn't mean that.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:37 pm to roadhouse
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Considering you can't ban shitheads from owning these dogs, unfortunately banning the breed is necessary
Illegal to own a PB in south Florida I know that. I would be very upset if a neighbor of mine owned one. We have a 3 year old and a 6 year old at home.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Seems like you hear stories about kids being mauled by a dog all the time,
What are the actual numbers?
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:58 pm to Patton
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What are the actual numbers?
That's what I could find with a quick search. Pit bulls have an overwhelming lead in terms of number of attacks and attack severity.
LINK, this is getting ridiculous
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I believe you but te Link seems broken FWIW.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:06 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Erm when I click that link it takes me to this thread. 
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:08 pm to UMRealist
Fixed, GODDAMNIT 
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:12 pm to Vols&Shaft83
takes me to an SECr page that has been removed?
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:14 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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two dogs, who were not confined before the attack
to the owner. Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:17 pm to kywildcatfanone
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The deadliest dogs
A review of 82 dog bite cases at a level 1 trauma center where the breed of dog was identified concludes that attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Bini, John K. MD; Cohn, Stephen M. MD; Acosta, Shirley M. RN, BSN; McFarland, Marilyn J. RN, MS; Muir, Mark T. MD; Michalek, Joel E. PhD; for the TRISAT Clinical Trials Group, Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs, Annals of Surgery (April 2011, Vol. 253, Issue 4, pp. 791–797).
Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.
According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:
If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.
Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."
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So I guess the answer is both? The breed has a more natural tendency to do serious harm than other breeds but if handled correctly by the right owner it can be managed.
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