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Question about pawn shops and catching thieves.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:36 am
I have reason to suspect that someone who spent a few days in my home pilfered some old jewelry and antique picture frames that I had stored in an upstairs closet.
The items aren't monetarily all that valuable, but more sentimental. I suppose the jewelry could have gone to one of those Cash for Gold places and gotten a couple hundred bucks.
If you call pawn shops do they have to tell you a person named "blank" pawned any items in the past 60 days? Or do you need a police report?
I have proof that one of the items I ammissing is now in the possession of his gf, because she posts the shite on Facebook.
The items aren't monetarily all that valuable, but more sentimental. I suppose the jewelry could have gone to one of those Cash for Gold places and gotten a couple hundred bucks.
If you call pawn shops do they have to tell you a person named "blank" pawned any items in the past 60 days? Or do you need a police report?
I have proof that one of the items I ammissing is now in the possession of his gf, because she posts the shite on Facebook.
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:43 am to wmr
Try to police - especially if you have Facebook proof. Either that or go to their house with an unloaded gun and call their arse out
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:46 am to wmr
Police report. Here, shops have to turn over a list or purchases and pawns weekly to detectives who come by. Still a long shot unfortunately, but sometimes they locate stolen items.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:48 am to Alahunter
Thank you.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:49 am to wmr
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I have reason to suspect that someone who spent a few days in my home pilfered some old jewelry and antique picture frames that I had stored in an upstairs closet.
9 iron to this persons head a few times.
Then a police report.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:50 am to wmr
Even if the police don't move on it as quickly as you'd like, pawn shops will be much more likely to talk to you if you've filed a police report. No one wants to be caught receiving stolen property.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:52 am to wmr
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If you call pawn shops do they have to tell you a person named "blank" pawned any items in the past 60 days? Or do you need a police report?
They will pretty much only deal with the police, even if you have a serial number match while you are in their store with something on the floor.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:52 am to Dawggy_Style
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Even if the police don't move on it as quickly as you'd like, pawn shops will be much more likely to talk to you if you've filed a police report. No one wants to be caught receiving stolen property.
Eh, after working for a gun store I've found that these places will often drag their feet or try to let the items "slide". No one wants to have the article found to be stolen after having paid for it.
Not saying don't contact the police, always do that. But in my experience anything that deals in used goods generally has shitty people involved with it.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:53 am to Dawggy_Style
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Even if the police don't move on it as quickly as you'd like, pawn shops will be much more likely to talk to you if you've filed a police report. No one wants to be caught receiving stolen property.
Not really, they dont want to have to deal with the victims or give up property they have paid for.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:53 am to NYCAuburn
Thanks.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:24 am to DrunkenStuporMan
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9 iron to this persons head a few times.
Then a police report.
But if you have a bad short game then try a 5 iron
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:28 am to wmr
You should bang his gf and make him watch
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:44 am to wmr
Here is the deal: all pawn transactions are protected by privacy, it's law, same as getting information about someone's loan from a bank.
If a pawnbroker tells you anything about another person's transaction, he is breaking the law.He/she can't even show you any item, before the term of the pawn is over. They are not going to do this. They might tell you "yes I know that person". If you want anything more than that, you have to get the police involved.
It's not that they don't want to help you, it is just a legal booby trap. Pawn shops don't want stolen stuff, it is too much trouble, and they are regulated more heavily than people realize.
If a pawnbroker tells you anything about another person's transaction, he is breaking the law.He/she can't even show you any item, before the term of the pawn is over. They are not going to do this. They might tell you "yes I know that person". If you want anything more than that, you have to get the police involved.
It's not that they don't want to help you, it is just a legal booby trap. Pawn shops don't want stolen stuff, it is too much trouble, and they are regulated more heavily than people realize.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:48 am to auggie
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Pawn shops don't want easily identified stolen stuff
FIFY
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:55 am to NYCAuburn
Trust me, pawn shop operators work closely with the police, and in many cases, police departments actually own the shops, even though they try to cultivate a sleazy image.It is an easy way to keep up with the bad elements of a community.
There are some guys out there that try to go rogue, but they generally don't last long.
There are some guys out there that try to go rogue, but they generally don't last long.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:06 am to auggie
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Trust me, pawn shop operators work closely with the police
Trust me, many dont work above the law 100% of the time. I work in the insurance industry and have a cousin who owns 3 pawn shops. Many know what the police can and cant do/trace and walk the line.
I just recently had an occurrence where a meth head pawned about 120k worth of tools over a 6 month period. Tools that this person would obviously not own, especially when he pushes them into the store on a cart for over a mile. This isnt a rare happening. If its easily identified and appears hot, they wont touch it, but you wont see them calling the cops unless its a special circumstance. If they can take it without a chance of it being traced, they will, in a heartbeat.
Another story, custom made shotgun(one of a kind) goes into the front of a pawn shop. Owner doesnt buy, (guns are the last thing they will even take a chance on) but calls people that will buy and takes his commission. 25k+ gun sold for $900
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:08 am to auggie
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Here is the deal: all pawn transactions are protected by privacy, it's law, same as getting information about someone's loan from a bank.
However, in this case the person probably didn't pawn the items. He/she probably "SOLD" the items and there is no pawn agreement for financing.
The OP says the GF has posted a picture of one of the items on face book. He needs to save that picture for evidence and find a picture of the items that can prove they are his and file a police report.
If they sold the items as scrap gild then they're probably already melted , unless there is a specific time the pawn shop must is the item prior to melting for scrap gold.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:18 am to NYCAuburn
As I said, there are some rogues, and it might be more so in a place where the state laws allow a lower % on pawn interest. In Alabama, the rate is 21% per month, yes over 250% per year. It is literally a license to steal,pure gravy without doing anything even close to illegal.
Now in some places, the legal rate is much lower, I can see where an operator might be tempted there.In Alabama an owner would be an idiot to risk such a good thing.
I think most Southern States are more similar to Alabama as far as pawn shops are concerned.
Now in some places, the legal rate is much lower, I can see where an operator might be tempted there.In Alabama an owner would be an idiot to risk such a good thing.
I think most Southern States are more similar to Alabama as far as pawn shops are concerned.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:24 am to spacewrangler
Law for buying and pawning is the same.All transactions are confidential. I am a part owner of a shop. Telling you what I know to be true.
In Alabama, all bought or pawned items must be held for 60, yes 60, not 30 days, before ANYTHING can be done with them, and all transactions are audited once each year by the state banking commission.
A pawn shop is easy money, why do anything to put the cash cow at risk?
In Alabama, all bought or pawned items must be held for 60, yes 60, not 30 days, before ANYTHING can be done with them, and all transactions are audited once each year by the state banking commission.
A pawn shop is easy money, why do anything to put the cash cow at risk?
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:28 am to wmr
Didn't read the whole thread, so this may have been covered already. Make a police report and give very detailed descriptions of the property as well as your suspect's identity. Detectives can run him by name for a pawn history. If they traded it for dope you'll never find it though.
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