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Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:07 pm
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I'm no economist and waste money as well as anybody, but... is the guy a complete moron? Or just mostly a moron?
I'm no economist and waste money as well as anybody, but... is the guy a complete moron? Or just mostly a moron?
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:19 pm to finestfirst79
My official stance is screw VY, but you do have to look at situations like these objectively. It's not just him. A lot of these guys never learn any money management skills between coming up from nothing to rolling in what they think is unlimited cash.
If you haven't see the ESPN 30 for 30 "Broke" it's an excellent watch.
If you haven't see the ESPN 30 for 30 "Broke" it's an excellent watch.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:23 pm to finestfirst79
No money management skills and to many hanger ons who spent his money.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:01 pm to finestfirst79
I'm not an economist either, but my sense is that Vince never made enough money. His expenses outstripped his income.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:04 pm to Projectpat
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you do have to look at situations like these objectively. It's not just him. A lot of these guys never learn any money management skills between coming up from nothing to rolling in what they think is unlimited cash.
This.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:02 am to finestfirst79
A former nfl player was never taught how manage his money? Color me shocked.
VY is just one of hundreds of athletes who file for bankruptcy every year. Nobody there to tell them using 1/6th of their yearly salary on a Ferrari is a bad idea..especially when you'll only be earning that type of money for an average of 5 years (random yet likely example)
Eta: and you don't have to be an economist. It's accountancy, finance, and responsibility. Of which VY has none.
VY is just one of hundreds of athletes who file for bankruptcy every year. Nobody there to tell them using 1/6th of their yearly salary on a Ferrari is a bad idea..especially when you'll only be earning that type of money for an average of 5 years (random yet likely example)
Eta: and you don't have to be an economist. It's accountancy, finance, and responsibility. Of which VY has none.
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:04 am to Rig
The restaurant was what really killed him I think. But I've heard he had lots moochers like many other athletes. He's obviously not very smart and I don't really like him, but overall it's sad to see so many of these athletes waste large sums of money so frequently.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:05 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
They need a set of guidelines when entering and leaving the NFL..and the top of the list should be avoid the restaurant business.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:09 am to Rig
I actually think schools should put them through personal finance courses. Basic investing guidelines outlining a 401k, Roth, mutual funds, doing taxes etc. And dont have tutors do everything for them, actually make them go and learn it. If you play ball at A&M or Auburn there's an above average chance you'll play in the league, and learning that info wouldn't be bad even if you don't make it to the NFL. I feel like some of the responsibility should be put on the universities that should be educating them
Posted on 1/23/14 at 1:22 am to SafetySam
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His expenses outstripped his income.
Yeah that must be it.
$26 million from NFL, an estimated $30 million in endorsements, and his total net worth is less than $1 million. Those were some tough expenses!
Posted on 1/23/14 at 6:20 am to finestfirst79
He was buying out whole Southwest flights on the reg so that he didn't have to fly with anyone else. I haven't done the math, but I have the suspicion that just going the NetJets route would have been cheaper. So yeah, SOME of it it IS because he's not a smart man.
The rest of it is the classic story: going broke by A) Funding a large entourage of guys from back home who you feel you owe it to B) Bad investments; the classics being: restaurants, clubs, land deals, and inventions, often because you hired a family member or a bud from back home to be your "investment advisor/money manager" and he was either clueless or crooked. Both A & B cross color and class barriers. You wouldn't believe the guys who have gone bust these ways.
The rest of it is the classic story: going broke by A) Funding a large entourage of guys from back home who you feel you owe it to B) Bad investments; the classics being: restaurants, clubs, land deals, and inventions, often because you hired a family member or a bud from back home to be your "investment advisor/money manager" and he was either clueless or crooked. Both A & B cross color and class barriers. You wouldn't believe the guys who have gone bust these ways.
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 6:20 am
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:29 am to finestfirst79
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is the guy a complete moron? Or just mostly a moron?
Well, we are talking about the same guy who took out a $300K loan to throw himself a birthday party, sooo.... yeah.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:12 pm to finestfirst79
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is the guy a complete moron? Or just mostly a moron?
10 Worst Wonderlic Scores in Combine History
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Wonderlic Score: (6 on first take, 14 on re-take)
Average score for position: 24
You be the judge.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 1:11 pm to finestfirst79
I don't care who the guy is, this is a sad situation. He is going right back to the situation he grew up in before heading to college. He obviously is did not have the academic ability to attend college in the first place. He has no real marketable skills. I don't even think he could coach.
It's just really sad, but what's even more sad is the fact that the people responsible for letting him slide from grade school all the way through college without preparing him for life after football will never be held accountable.
It's just really sad, but what's even more sad is the fact that the people responsible for letting him slide from grade school all the way through college without preparing him for life after football will never be held accountable.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:55 am to KaiserSoze99
I kind of take it like the not everybody is meant for college approach. These guys make more in a year than I will in a career. (VY type, not players on the minimum nfl wage which is still a good head start from where I'm at) if they can't take it on themselves to get educated then they deserve to blow it all. They have experienced a lifestyle that I will never sniff. The resources are there, I have no pity. It's actually quite pathetic.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:55 am to FleurDeLonestar
The problem is that no matter how many times they're told: DO NOT HIRE YOUR UNCLE TO MANAGE YOUR MONEY, they go and do it anyway.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:21 am to finestfirst79
Reminds me of Patrick Ewing during the NBA Strike in the '90s:
"People need to understand. We make a lot of money but we SPEND a lot of money too!"
Ewing was a great Union rep for the players. I know that made the owners anxious to open up those checkbooks!
"People need to understand. We make a lot of money but we SPEND a lot of money too!"
Ewing was a great Union rep for the players. I know that made the owners anxious to open up those checkbooks!
Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:47 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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some of the responsibility should be put on the universities that should be educating them
I'm sure they offer something along those lines. I know the NFL does. The cover everything in classes for these guys from lifestyle choices to money management.
He has a degree in education so he has something to fall back on. At least he went back and got his degree.
He is in the same boat as a lot of lottery winners.... broke arse. Mo money, mo problems.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:09 pm to Tridentds
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He has a degree in education
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Wonderlic Score: (6 on first take, 14 on re-take) Average score for position: 24
FWIW, his degree is in Youth and Community Studies which is from the College of Education at texas. Sounds like a decent enough athlete focused degree.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:32 pm to relapse98
Youth and Community Studies. Wow. My sip uncle didn't tell me that.
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