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If tre mason kneels on the 5, does auburn win?

Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:16 am
Seems like it. I don't understnd why the players don't have situational awareness.

You don't want to leave them 1:20. Kneel at the 5, pound it a few times. With multiple timeouts and that great rushing attack, they would have been able to punch it in and seal their fate.
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:18 am to
But if he does kneel and Fla State stops them on 4 downs they talk about it as the biggest blunder in history.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:18 am to
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This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:18 am to
But what if AU doesn't get in? At that point people would say he should have scored.

As the great Pat Dye once said, "Hindsight is 50/50".
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:19 am to
quote:

But what if AU doesn't get in?
You kick a 20 yard field goal to tie the game.
Posted by mcneil912
Member since Feb 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:19 am to
Auburn shouldn't have been snapping the ball with 25+ seconds inside of field goal range


The gimmick backfired
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:19 am to
It's a tricky situation.

In Madden, I would.

I wouldn't kneel at the 5, but at the 1 or 2 maybe. It would have been tactically smarter to do, but there is that lingering worry that you can't get in, fumble the snap, or settle for a kick (that could be missed/blocked) to go to OT when you could have taken the lead.

But with a RB that will get you a yard, like Mason, yeah, kneel on it, if only to get another 30 seconds off the clock.

This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
Another thing is that the Auburn DB should have grabbed that big FSU receiver's foot and pulled him away from that last pass.
The subsequent PI would have put it on the 1 yard line, but FSU would have only had like 13 seconds left.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15649 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
Never seen a team do that. You have to trust your defense with a minute I go to keep the other team out of the end zone. Hindsight is 20/20 but there is no way you kneel. Imagine if they kneel and only get a fg and then lose in overtime......the backlash would be enormous. Instead, everyone just said the Heisman winner stepped up.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
When Parkey missed that FG, I said to myself that might have been the game right there.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
I'd feel tentimes better about malzahn calling up scoring plays than stopping FSU with momentum.

Either way, hell of a game. Impressed with auburn big time.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

You kick a 20 yard field goal to tie the game.


A field goal is not guaranteed.

Turnovers happen.

You take points when you can.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by uscwillie7
Conway, SC
Member since Jan 2013
96 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:20 am to
NO.

you never intentionally not take the lead.

Auburn was losing by three so a FG only ties. You score and take the lead. If they were down 1 or 2, you may down the ball and run the clock (I would not) then kick the game winning FG, but you are assuming Auburn would score.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38371 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Seems like it. I don't understnd why the players don't have situational awareness.


This is so incredibly stupid. You score when given the opportunity. They needed a touchdown for the win, not a FG. You take the guaranteed touchdown. Anything can happen in the next 4 plays. Stops, fumble, penalties, etc.

You have to think your defense can stop a team from marching th length of the field in the final minutes.....ohhhh, now I see why you're advocating this
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16992 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:21 am to
Probably. But we can play the what if game all day long.

What if AU was ready for that fake punt and stopped it? What if one of AU's players didn't pull a hamstring when Whitfield ran that kick back for a TD? What if Cody Parkey didn't pull a Cade Foster and miss a chip shot FG? What if Davis and Smith (DB's) didn't collide with each other and took Rashad Greene down after an 8 yard gain instead of a 45 yard gain? What if Tre Mason took a knee at the 5? (LOL would look silly).

FSU also had some what if moments. We can play it all day, but bottom line is AU lost in a good hard fought game that I thought was called pretty fairly by the refs. AU got away with some shite, but so did FSU (holding mainly).
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:21 am to
Auburn was intent on choking, there was nothing they could do to stop it.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:21 am to
What if we fumble?

bottom line is you take the points. Th situation was almost identical to the A&M game for us... mason scores a TD with 1:10ish on the clock and we KO to a heisman winning QB. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2747 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Auburn's D had to step up. They didn't. Auburn's offense didn't lose it.

Well, missing out on the touchdown earlier, and missing a chipshot field goal lost it for them as well.

That field goal could have made the game already tied, or within 1 point, meaning Mason should kneel on the 5, kneel 3 times and kick the game winner. Basically, 2010 repeat.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38371 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I'd feel tentimes better about malzahn calling up scoring plays than stopping FSU with momentum.


Tell me how FSU has momentum when they gave up the go ahead score with 1:19 left. It's a retarded argument and every coach in the game would agree that you take the touchdown right there
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Seems like it. I don't understnd why the players don't have situational awareness. You don't want to leave them 1:20. Kneel at the 5, pound it a few times. With multiple timeouts and that great rushing attack, they would have been able to punch it in and seal their fate.
With that post, it's obvious that you deserve Les Miles as your coach.
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