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are miss st db's that good

Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:43 pm
Posted by paul02085
Shelby, Al (Lay Lake)
Member since Sep 2006
1325 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:43 pm
We didn't seem to be open most of the night. Haven't they gien up lots of passing yards prior to us?
Just not used t aj sitting back there so long.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:48 pm to
I think they were playing their safties deep and we kept trying to beat them deep, they also wasn't falling for the T.E. drag.

We had 383 yards to their 197, the 4 turnovers stopped the game being 30-0.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38370 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:52 pm to
We run he same routes and route combos that we've run all year. Our playbook is far from creative in this aspect. State did a good job of scouting these simplistic combos and covered everyone up. It's really inexcusable. With the talent on hand it shouldn't be too hard to get guys open, but it is.
Posted by T Rey WI
Back in the south where I belong!
Member since Dec 2010
2937 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:53 pm to
Also keep in mind that on passing downs they were dropping 8 or 9 people into coverage with 2 deep safeties. That makes for tight passing lanes.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38370 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:56 pm to
What bothers me is we have a veteran QB and several talented veteran WRs that should be on the same page. An option route can pick up 8 yards all the way down the field. I just don't get it. This is t some new phenomenon either, we've struggled all year getting guys open. Need more self scouting on the routes we run.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:07 pm to
For much of the first half, prior to every snap Todd Blackledge would say "Bama likes to run _______ play here." We would then run that kind of play without fail. Mississippi State was ready for it every time, and we did nothing to try and throw the defense off balance.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:39 pm to
It's something that we've struggled with for years. We're getting good production out of our WRs but not the type of production we should be getting. Our system, for whatever reason, just doesn't allow WRs to get open as much as they should.

AJ also wasn't trusting his protection. He seemed to take an extra step back and just never seemed to be on the same page as the WRs.
Posted by tt54l32v
Member since Oct 2012
832 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:20 pm to
AJ had happy feet, they were dropping 9 in coverage and still getting some pressure. I think that is because we really only pass off of play action. It does no good to protect for ever if AJ's internal clock says get rid of it.

AJ is either not good at going through his reads or there are just not any, and he only really has one or two options no matter how many run routes.

It is a lack of talent in some cases and a lack of execution in some and a lack of correct play calls in others. We are extremely predictable. And opposing coaches always seem to have us nailed, we just beat them with talent and execution when we are succesful. Several of our best runs were still blown up in the backfield and good runs by the back.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:27 pm to
AJ is one of the best at going through his reads, the problem was everyone was covered up and he knows better than to force something for a risk/reward situation. He did once and Christion Jones gift wrapped the DB an INT.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:53 pm to
He forced it twice and both were intercepted. Though the second one he had a guy wide open, but he couldn't put much on the ball because of the pressure. Ball floated a bit and was picked off.

We just looked lethargic all the way around Saturday night. It happens, and seems to happen every year against Mississippi State. One of these days they're going to jump up and upset us.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:01 pm to
Am I remembering things wrong, or did our passing game look better last year? Seems like the deep ball doesn't connect nearly as much in 2013.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Am I remembering things wrong, or did our passing game look better last year? Seems like the deep ball doesn't connect nearly as much in 2013.



Cooper was a very good deep threat last year. He hasn't been the same this year. Some of that is due to injury, but I wonder if he is as mentally in the game this year. Bell also isn't the same since his injury.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:10 pm to
We've had a lot of those same deep balls open this year. AJ has overthrown a few, and pressure has gotten to him a few times before he could hit it other times.

It did look better last year though, primarily because of the emergence of Amari Cooper. He's been injured most of the year, and when healthy defenses are keying on him more.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 7:21 pm to
i think we'll be ok the rest of this year.

however, in the playoff situation next year. if theres only a week between the semis and the championship games. we'll be in trouble. we just dont do very well in the second of back to back big games
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 7:24 pm to
Yeah, Bell isn't the same deep threat anymore. He's lost a step and AJ has no timing with him. It sucks, but we need to just win from here. The VT, CSU, Ole Miss, and MSU games have done a number on me, I want domination, but now I'm ready to just secure 4 out of 5 and get ready for the post AJ era.
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